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Old 04-06-2015, 11:41 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The Republican Party is a private organization as defined by our laws. It is not an official government entity.

As such, it can make up it's organizational rules as it wants. If you have a problem with the GOP, take it up with the party's leaders.
We did. We stayed home, or left the president blank on election day.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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We did. We stayed home, or left the president blank on election day.
And even if you did vote, it would have only closed up the popular gap and maybe give one or two more states electorally but not enough for the win. You put up a Cruz, you'll likely have the same problem but with losing independent moderates or even the mainstream Republican moderates. Paul is a bit different and is trying to establish the big tent while Cruz isn't (at least directly.)
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Old 04-06-2015, 05:40 PM
 
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And even if you did vote, it would have only closed up the popular gap and maybe give one or two more states electorally but not enough for the win. You put up a Cruz, you'll likely have the same problem but with losing independent moderates or even the mainstream Republican moderates. Paul is a bit different and is trying to establish the big tent while Cruz isn't (at least directly.)
Mitt didn't pull many independent moderates. He pulled moderate progressive Republicans. The GOP base.
All the independents in this town, had Ron Paul in their sights.


But it all looked good on paper the day before the election. Mitt was picked to win, hands down. What happened. He lost all the Ron Paul Revolution.
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:32 PM
 
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the fact that lindsey graham speaks out to tarnish rand paul by saying HRC would deal better with iran and there are R groups ready to spend a million dollars tomorrow on a hit-ad on him makes RP an even more attractive candidate.
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:46 PM
 
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the fact that lindsey graham speaks out to tarnish rand paul by saying HRC would deal better with iran and there are R groups ready to spend a million dollars tomorrow on a hit-ad on him makes RP an even more attractive candidate.


I saw and heard that too. I'd rather Rand get a call at 3am. We all saw what happened when Hilary got the call.
Makes you wonder if it wasn't Bill getting up at 3am, to change Chelsea's diaper.
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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The Republican Party is a private organization as defined by our laws. It is not an official government entity.

As such, it can make up it's organizational rules as it wants. If you have a problem with the GOP, take it up with the party's leaders.
"We're crooks and will move the goalposts at pleasure to make sure the company man wins."-The GOP. I'll be supporting Rand and campaigning for him but I'm anticipating the corrupt "leaders" of the GOP to find a way to screw Rand over too.

Thus I'll be "taking it up" with the party's "leaders" in the same fashion I did in 2008, 2010, 2012, and 2014. I'll be supporting Nobody again:
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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the fact that lindsey graham speaks out to tarnish rand paul by saying HRC would deal better with iran and there are R groups ready to spend a million dollars tomorrow on a hit-ad on him makes RP an even more attractive candidate.
Lindsey Graham is a statist chickenhawk creep. Lindsey Graham, HRC, and Jeb Bush are all perfect embodiments of everything that is wrong with our nation and our political system.
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:10 PM
 
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Prepaid but Paul had loyal followers. Loyal followers don't exactly mean mass appeal. A rock band like Avenged Sevenfold for instance has loyal followers who well but the album the first week and make it a number one album but yet they don't crack the billboard top 40 with an individual single. I see Ron Paul not translating to the national needs in the same way I don't see Cruz. Disagree all you want but we would have seen a Goldwater like defeat as the Republicans would likely not win battleground states like they did with Romney. Remember, Romney actually gained two states from McCain's failed attempt in 2008.

It told me Mitt had little grassroots(the people), compared to Ron. Mitt had wallstreet and corporate america(the money), compared to Ron

Money buys corruption, as it proved. Money buys election results, not voters.

It is not the voters that decide elections. Elections are decided by those that count the votes.
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Mitt didn't pull many independent moderates. He pulled moderate progressive Republicans. The GOP base.
All the independents in this town, had Ron Paul in their sights.


But it all looked good on paper the day before the election. Mitt was picked to win, hands down. What happened. He lost all the Ron Paul Revolution.
You didn't get the point of the post did you? The point is if the Paul Revolution votes were in battleground states it mattered. If you didn't vote and you lived in the south, Texas and Arizona, Romney carried those states anyway so those sitting home because the Ron Paul Revolution was derailed or Romney wasn't a religious conservative didn't need to vote for Romney to carry those votes. If the Paul Revolution votes were there, they would only change the popular vote. You would need the Ohios of the US to have the Paul Revolution votes that weren't cast. I don't see enough votes for Paul in these states that truly needed more Republican votes for Romney to win the electoral college. The south could have had the 5 million votes that Romney lost to Obama in the popular vote but he still wouldn't be President because where the votes were cast.
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Old 04-07-2015, 03:33 AM
 
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Rand Paul is essentially a far right republican who occasionally throws out libertarian talking points to try to get his fathers fans to vote for him
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