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Old 03-27-2015, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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. But Cruz, he kept it to a bumper-sticker: "Defund!" I know that others disagree but I think this episode was totally pathetic and all about the politics, not about governing.

Politics is always a consideration, the people on both sides of the aisle are politicians. Its their trade, their livelihoods.

"Defunding" wasn't the complete plan that Cruz had in mind, of course. The defunding was stage one.

Stage two would have been the Democrats looking for a way to provide an off ramp and a fix to the system that they devised.

Stage two didn't come down, because there was no pressure on them to do anything- the defunding measure failed.


But Cruz's strategy seemed pretty sound. Put the pressure on (with defunding), and force them to come up with a fix pronto. Politicians usually only work under pressure.
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Old 03-27-2015, 06:13 PM
 
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You really should read his job history and see who he worked for before running for Senate. He is more of the same old, same old that we expect to see from the GOP.

What makes you think I didn't? And no, he isn't the same ol' same ol'. If he was, he wouldn't have jeopardized his political career filibustering Obamacare. He tried to inform Americans about the lies and true financial risk of that bill, and he was ridiculed. Turns out he was right.
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Old 03-27-2015, 06:25 PM
 
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I read OP for or against Sen. Cruz. Cruz brings reality of this country in play and most including myself is frankly tired of lying public servants.
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Old 03-27-2015, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What makes you think I didn't? And no, he isn't the same ol' same ol'. If he was, he wouldn't have jeopardized his political career filibustering Obamacare. He tried to inform Americans about the lies and true financial risk of that bill, and he was ridiculed. Turns out he was right.
Yeah, this isn't about ACA, this is about what he did before being a Senator. Clearly you haven't looked into it, or you are okay with backing another Washington Insider who will take care of his DC buddies first.
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Old 03-27-2015, 06:53 PM
 
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Yeah, this isn't about ACA, this is about what he did before being a Senator. Clearly you haven't looked into it, or you are okay with backing another Washington Insider who will take care of his DC buddies first.

I am aware of his career. What, exactly, do you believe I am missing?
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Old 03-27-2015, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I am aware of his career. What, exactly, do you believe I am missing?
Ah, I guess him being a DC Insider like the rest of them isn't an issue for you. I thought it was based on your other posts.
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Old 03-27-2015, 07:20 PM
 
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Ah, I guess him being a DC Insider like the rest of them isn't an issue for you. I thought it was based on your other posts.
And you didn't answer my question. Hey, I don't claim to know everything about everything, so enlighten me.
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Old 03-27-2015, 07:47 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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all you do is repeat the same vague thing over and over again.

what does it matter anyways when your just going to run back and vote for the establishment candidate like you did in 12 anyways
You must understand that posting on threads here at C-D is therapy for some people.

Honestly I do not see Cruz being nominated by the GOP to be their candidate in '16. Republican leadership want a candidate who can win huge political campaign donations from the corporate world, and someone who will over many of the "independent" and "moderate" voters. I doubt Cruz can do that.
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Old 03-27-2015, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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And you didn't answer my question. Hey, I don't claim to know everything about everything, so enlighten me.
Nah, it is easy to find though if one actually cares to know what business practices Rafael Cruz did before being a Senator and who he worked for.
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Old 03-27-2015, 08:34 PM
 
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Nah, it is easy to find though if one actually cares to know what business practices Rafael Cruz did before being a Senator and who he worked for.

Clearly, you have nothing.
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