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Old 03-28-2015, 07:02 AM
 
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I'm personally glad the repubs keep parading the freaks they do. At the rate they are going, we will never have another repub president in our lifetimes. They just cant seem to grasp that when the whole world is telling you, you are crazy and out-of-touch, you don't go crazier and more out-of-touch next time around. If Cruz goes up against Paul in a live debate, he will be chewed up and spit out. It will be an ugly sight.
The Clintons have ben breaking Laws since White Water and Warren is you typical angry Socialist. Bill and Hilary have escaped Federal investigation for years. What was interesting that people went to jail and others refuse to testify and went to jail.
Warren is not even liked by the whole of the DNC and Buffet has spoken against her.

Actual Cruz and Paul want to bring us back to a Constitutional course, and not a Ruler like Obama. Cruz and Paul a debate ? would be fun. What would be more interesting is the debate against the Clinton's of the world who can not even clean up their own house!

So who are you calling Freaks?:ro lleyes:
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:03 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I don't have much against Cruz's outside of congress resume. It is pretty stout but is it presidential, maybe. The problem with Cruz though is how abrasive Cruz is.
You don't find Obama abrasive?
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I mean an tempted government shutdown through a filibuster for an agreement to fund the government with Obamacare not defunded.
What is this fixation you people have with "government shut-down," which has never happened, and will never happen. The government has always continued to function. And anyway, it was not Ted Cruz threatening any so-called "shut-down." He is only one man. The "other side," Democrats, unwilling to compromise, are just as responsible in these cases. The Democrats have used the filibuster every bit as often as Republicans have.

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I get it, Texas conservatives cheered for him and a few tea party members rejoiced to but the nation didn't like it and turned Cruz into a household name of you follow politics and not for the good reasons. People may think Cruz is right in the conservative, even libertarian wing of the republicans but not that is it. It is a small fraction. Reagan would likely be a RINO to how conservative the US has gotten today and he was one that supported Goldwater in 1964 and gave him a last minute vote of confidence.
Reagan would have praised Ted Cruz.
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:07 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Right...A guy who clerked for a Justice of the Supreme Court, advised a Presidential candidate on public policy, Was the director of public policy for the FCC and was Solicitor General of Texas is equal to a Kardashian???

You use a very odd metric system.
These people wear blinders. And they can't see beyond the end of their Pinocchio nose.
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:14 AM
 
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The Clintons have ben breaking Laws since White Water and Warren is you typical angry Socialist. Bill and Hilary have escaped Federal investigation for years. What was interesting that people went to jail and others refuse to testify and went to jail.
Warren is not even liked by the whole of the DNC and Buffet has spoken against her.

Actual Cruz and Paul want to bring us back to a Constitutional course, and not a Ruler like Obama. Cruz and Paul a debate ? would be fun. What would be more interesting is the debate against the Clinton's of the world who can not even clean up their own house!

So who are you calling Freaks?:ro lleyes:
Huh?!?!?
What do Clintons have to do with anything I wrote?
Remember this post. You may love this contrived 1950's throwback act, but it will not resonate in the real world. Cruz will Luze to whoever the Dems run. Take that to the bank
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:17 AM
 
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Reagan would have praised Ted Cruz.
Obama is a republican and the closest politician to Reagan either of the corporateer party's have put up since Reagan
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:44 AM
 
Location: it depends
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These people wear blinders. And they can't see beyond the end of their Pinocchio nose.
umm, I can see that Cruz is a slick politician, a greasy salesman, who plays politics when he could be governing. I've read his apologists' explanations of why "defund" was not irresponsible, and it doesn't make sense to me. More thoughtful (conservative) politicians have proposed off-ramps from the ACA; Cruz proposed that we just "stop," ignoring the damage and disruption the government would have created by making a mess and then walking away.

The ACA cost me a ton of money in higher taxes, higher premiums, and higher deductibles. But my family now runs up a pile of medical bills every month, and "defund" meant throwing us under the bus. It was a cheap political stunt, and is one of the many reasons why Cruz will be a flash in the pan.
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Old 03-28-2015, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Mitt Romney was miles and miles ahead of Barack Obama, and still was vilified by the press.
Sadly yes and wrongfully so. Cruz will get vilified too but rightfully so as he has given sooo much stuff to give to the media who want to lambast him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=annC3iZFCG4
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Old 03-28-2015, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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What is this fixation you people have with "government shut-down," which has never happened, and will never happen. The government has always continued to function. And anyway, it was not Ted Cruz threatening any so-called "shut-down." He is only one man. The "other side," Democrats, unwilling to compromise, are just as responsible in these cases. The Democrats have used the filibuster every bit as often as Republicans have.
You are truly obtuse. A government shutdown is the name for the process the Executive Branch must enter into when the Congress creates a "funding gap" by choosing not to or failing to pass legislation funding government operations and agencies. In October 2013 there was a government shutdown due to an inability to pass a spending bill because Republicans (led by Ted Cruz) wanted to abolish Obamacare and that would be the only way they would pass the government funding bills. Cruz didn't act presidential with it, neither did senate, house and executive leaders in Washington but Cruz was the lightning rod with leading the sucicide caucus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klXAthg_kGc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsa5-hCwEpg

Cruz went so far as filibustering for 13 hours over a funding bill with Obamacare included. TRANSCRIPT: Sen. Ted Cruz's filibuster against Obamacare | The Washington Post

But hey, if you don't believe that exists, it's a cool story bro.
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Old 03-28-2015, 08:27 AM
 
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Stage 3 is where BOTH sides, not just one, go back to the drawing boards and figure out a health care reform plan that can serve all Americans.
This reminded me of the comment made by U.S. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli Jr, the lawyer arguing on the side of the ACA before the Supreme Court, when Scalia asked the question, wouldn't Congress come together to fix any problems with healthcare? To which Verrilli responded incredulously, "THIS Congress???" And to which everyone in the room, on the left and on the right, laughed out loud because they all recognized it as the truth.

Either you have not been paying attention or you're being purposely disingenuous. The Republicans in Congress don't care about fixing healthcare, they only care about dismantling the ACA. Period. And Ted Cruz is leading the charge. Even though he is taking advantage of Obamacare the same way millions of other Americans are. What a guy.

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Relying on a single party, and a single ideology, to push through health care reform is Obamacare's original sin and its most fatal flaw.

You have to get a system that everyone has ownership of.
That is exactly what the ACA is--a plan where both sides can claim ownership. The GOP created the plan and the Democrats implemented it. So...you're good now?

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Old 03-28-2015, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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That is exactly what the ACA is--a plan where both sides can claim ownership. The GOP created the plan and the Democrats implemented it. So...you're good now?
The Republicans didn't cast a single vote for the plan.


In fact, the Democrats chose to stifle any GOP amendments to it, they decided to halt debate on the matter and force through the plan on a party line vote.
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