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Old 04-07-2015, 10:51 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The important numbers are the negative ratings. Someone who things negatively about a candidate rarely chnages their mind. High negatives mean very little room for growth. Paul and Cruz have very low negatives unlike bush, Christi and hillary.
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Old 04-07-2015, 11:08 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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It's too early to start this nonsense again, isn't it? jesus christ

Paul won't even be the GOP nominee, not a chance in hell. 47-45, 3% MOE? Let's stick with reality.
You call for reality????

Watch what happens when the various candidates have to start stating and defending their positions on all issues. I make no general predictions except that Hillary will tick more people off when she makes her claims which may well be proven to be lies.
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Old 04-07-2015, 11:12 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Rand isn't my first choice, but I would probably vote for him over Hillary. His foreign policy positions concern me.
She has no foreign policy goals, at least until Obama tells her to. That being the case, I will wait for the inevitable flip flop from Sen Paul to see what he evolves into pushing.
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Old 04-07-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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Nah, just early onset of PTOS. Withdrawal symptoms.
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Someone sounds a little angry.
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Old 04-07-2015, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Someone sounds a little angry.
No legitimate poll comes up with a 92% tally. Especially this early. There was either a mistake in the reporting or something fishy in the poll.
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Old 04-07-2015, 11:39 AM
 
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After the 2012 election, Gallup performed an internal hot-wash of its polling to figure out how it got it so wrong over the course of the campaign. That should be a clue that even the best polling institutions are flawed. For that reason, I will review each poll that I'm interested in to see how it was conducted, who conducted it, who was polled, the questions they were asked, and if there are any implicit biases. From there I will still take it with a bit of skepticism.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:30 PM
 
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On a side note, Rand out polls Hill, in Pennsylvania and Colorado.
Rand Paul leads Hillary Clinton 47-44 in Colorado | Rare
That Colorado poll is dated Feb 6, which is an eternity ago in political polling time.
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Old 04-07-2015, 12:43 PM
 
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It all comes down to who can afford to buy the nomination with campaign funds. Jeb Bush is the GOP golden boy and will get the nomination unfortunately. I too would really like to see Paul get the nomination and I think he has the potential to beat Clinton, but he has to get the nomination first, and I don't see it happening.
Ehhh, not so sure about that. Seems his bull pen of big donors are not all in for him yet...they may not want to back another loser...and they have been fairly warned that if they push another Bush on the GOP, they will not just lose, but lose soundly and with intent on the part of the grassroots to make it happen.
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Old 04-07-2015, 01:13 PM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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It all comes down to who can afford to buy the nomination with campaign funds. Jeb Bush is the GOP golden boy and will get the nomination unfortunately. I too would really like to see Paul get the nomination and I think he has the potential to beat Clinton, but he has to get the nomination first, and I don't see it happening.
I would like to see the libertarians focus on two or three concrete hard policy issues, instead of letting young ideologues run amok, and position themselves to bargain.

As it stands, independents, who thankfully do not fantasize in the straight-jacket of ideologies - have much more influence on shaping hard policy issues (e.g. fiscal policy, defense, some social policies).
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Old 04-07-2015, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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And you were one of the people who was certain that Scott Walker would be recalled.
Nope, not even close. Nice attempt at being revisionist, though.
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