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Old 04-25-2015, 06:34 AM
 
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No, Aeroguy, the 46% Obama margin was facts, it happened, not speculation.

Latino USA pop median age is a decade younger than US overall. That will fuel their growth as an ever larger % of the US voting population.
And much of that fueled growth is via illegal immigration. Does it make you proud? It is neither lawful nor natural.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:03 PM
 
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The fueled growth is via being younger. Our median age, without immigration, would be rising, just like Japan, who will face a de-population crisis at some point. We won't as immigrants have lower median ages than native born citizens.
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Old 04-26-2015, 07:28 AM
 
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The fueled growth is via being younger. Our median age, without immigration, would be rising, just like Japan, who will face a de-population crisis at some points. We won't as immigrants have lower median ages than native born citizens.
If we actually need population growth via "legal" immigration most Americans don't have a problem with that. It is uncontrolled illegal immigration that is objectionable. At this point in time there is no indication that we need a lot of immigration with shortages of jobs and resources.
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Old 04-26-2015, 08:51 AM
 
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Hellion ignores the fact the GOP has won just 39% of electoral votes in 24 years, and the fact the Blue Wall starts Dems off needing just Va and 1 swing state. As easy as winning when Matt Harvey is pitching for my Mets!


Like I said, Democrats needs the WH in 2016 to have 1 branch of government.........Republicans control the rest of the government branches and the majority of State governorships.

you need to take American Civics 101, the president is not king, he has very limited powers.
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Old 04-26-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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Like I said, Democrats needs the WH in 2016 to have 1 branch of government.........Republicans control the rest of the government branches and the majority of State governorships.

you need to take American Civics 101, the president is not king, he has very limited powers.
I wouldn't count on the GOP holding the Senate in 2016. And nothing gets signed into law without the president, or without 2/3rds of Congress voting to override a veto, which is a really high hurdle. Which is why who sits in the White House is more important than you are pretending.
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Old 04-26-2015, 09:27 AM
 
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I believe the mistake Chavez and even some (R's) are making is that most Hispanics here legally (presumably the only ones that can vote) want the system to work for people doing it the right way like they did.
They do not want people who broke the law to be rewarded & get ahead of others patiently waiting in line doing it the correct way.
Lets face it, every year they are here illegally in our country, they are still benefiting over those who are not in the USA. So the illegal aliens would already be getting an advantage even if they were made to pay fines, and have a long waiting period to get green cards/work permits. Free school, healthcare, and an improved standard of living is all happening for the illegals while other people languish in their countries by doing the right thing.
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Old 04-26-2015, 09:38 AM
 
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I wouldn't count on the GOP holding the Senate in 2016. And nothing gets signed into law without the president, or without 2/3rds of Congress voting to override a veto, which is a really high hurdle. Which is why who sits in the White House is more important than you are pretending.
The legislative branch of the United States is set up in the first article of the constitution. This article grants congress the exclusive rights to mint money, barrow money, declare war, and to make laws among other things.

However it is true that the executive branch has gained much more power over the years, though congress still holds the vast majority of power in the United States government, and for the foreseeable future, always will.




flip the coin, the President can't do anything without congress.



Like I said, the Democrats need badly the WH in 2016 to keep at least 1 branch of government.....if Hillary loses, Democrat won't control any branch of government and Republicans still control the majority of the governorships in the nation.
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Old 04-26-2015, 09:50 AM
 
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The legislative branch of the United States is set up in the first article of the constitution. This article grants congress the exclusive rights to mint money, barrow money, declare war, and to make laws among other things.

However it is true that the executive branch has gained much more power over the years, though congress still holds the vast majority of power in the United States government, and for the foreseeable future, always will.
You act like the power of the presidential veto began in 2009. And again, nothing gets signed into law without the president. Bloviate all you will, that remains true.

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Like I said, the Democrats need badly the WH in 2016 to keep at least 1 branch of government.....if Hillary loses, Democrat won't control any branch of government and Republicans still control the majority of the governorships in the nation.
Why are you ignoring the Senate?

Democrats will most likely control the Senate and the White House, leaving the GOP with only the House. Not a great position of power by any means.
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Old 04-26-2015, 10:55 AM
 
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HeyJude is correct, Hellion. With 24 GOP seats up in '16,it is unlikely the GOP can overcome that. Unlike '12 and '14, many up are in less than solid red states.
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Old 04-26-2015, 11:46 AM
 
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I'd have to give the R's a slight edge in holding the Senate in 2016. The D's probably need to beat Ayotte in NH, Toomey in PA and Portman in OH while holding vulnerable seats in CO and NV. They're going to gain seats, but it's going to be close. The Veep on the winning Presidential ticket could be the tie-breaking vote in organizationally controlling the Senate. How far those incumbent GOP Senators run ahead of their Presidential nominee in Blue or Purple states will probably tell the tale. Kirk in Illinois and Johnson in Wisconsin look to be the longest shots to win re-election.

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