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Old 04-30-2015, 03:59 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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he gets to say that he ran for president, and raise his speaking fees after he leaves office.
Yep. That's about it.
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:00 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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He's never leaving office.
He's not immortal.
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:03 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Obama was/is a wingnut too. Wingnut status doesn't preclude the Democrat Party base from voting for someone. Bernie's problem is that he's white and not a novelty.
From now on, perhaps we should refer to it as the Democrat[ick] Party. I got called out (called ignorant) for referring to it as the Democrat Party. I pointed out that there is nothing Democratic about them. But, they are pretty icky.
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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I like Bernie Sanders and I say that as a libertarian learning kinda guy. He's against corporatism, the military industrial complex, senseless wars, and the death penalty
How are those "libertarian leaning"? Libertarians worship corporations.
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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I pointed out that there is nothing Democratic about them.
Is that why they keep winning elections?
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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How are those "libertarian leaning"? Libertarians worship corporations.
Libertarians do not worship corporations. Do you even know what a corporation is, where it was invented, and why businesses incorporate?
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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Libertarians believe in the unfettered exercise of the free market, with zero government restraint. The end result of this, as history has shown repeatedly, are giant, monopolistic corporations.
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Libertarians believe in the unfettered exercise of the free market, with zero government restraint. The end result of this, as history has shown repeatedly, are giant, monopolistic corporations.
That's not true. And as I said, I'm libertarian leaning. I would welcome Bernie's anti-corporatism stance.
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:42 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Is that why they keep winning elections?
Oh, do they? What happened in 2014? What happened in 2010?

In 2014, Republicans took back control of the Senate. We increased our numbers in the House. We increased the number of Republican governorships, and more states are under Republican leadership than they are under the control of Democrats.

States under Democratic control are a mess. Why do you suppose that is? It isn't because liberal policies work so well.
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Old 04-30-2015, 04:44 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The Vermont socialist is not a wingnut because of who owns him; rather, it is the blatant anti-prosperity platform of further eviscerating the financial system, rendering millions of people unemployable by pricing their labor above market value via huge minimum wage increases and state-sponsored labor monopolies, and the protectionist poverty initiatives.

He is a wingnut because his policies are even more counterproductive than Barack Obama's.
Perfectly stated, and exactly right.
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