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Old 05-07-2015, 06:57 PM
 
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Its Sen. Rand Paul to whom you're referring, and he is from Kentucky, a border state- not a southern one- which was loyal to the union.
Note that he didn't provide a video? That way he could take things out of context and spin the message. Typical of these white conservative haters. Of course if a white person is a liberal then they are A-ok according to them but that doesn't negate the above. They continue to call the GOP the party of racism and it is a blatant lie. They can't debate anything without pulling the unwarranted race card. Despicable! They act like adolescents on a play ground.
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:18 PM
 
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If Jeb Bush will go head to head against the tea party republicans and finally solve the immigration problem, he'll get my vote and probably enough votes to beat Hillary.
What say you?

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush declared Wednesday that 11 million immigrants in the country illegally should have an opportunity to stay, wading yet again into his party's contentious immigrant debate.
"We're a nation of immigrants," Bush said at the National Christian Hispanic Leadership Conference that brought several hundred Hispanic evangelical leaders to Houston this week. "This is not the time to abandon something that makes us special and unique." A successful immigration overhaul is more than simply strengthening the border, Bush said, referring to "11 million people that should come out from the shadows and receive earned legal status."

Jeb Bush: Give 11 Million Immigrants A Chance To Stay
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His stance on immigration is what will sink him in the Primaries. Conservatives(and there are many democrats) are fed up with that crap and the lip service America gets from an allowed invasion.





We are not a nation of illegal immigrants.
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:26 PM
 
Location: in the soup
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Note that he didn't provide a video? That way he could take things out of context and spin the message. Typical of these white conservative haters. Of course if a white person is a liberal then they are A-ok according to them but that doesn't negate the above. They continue to call the GOP the party of racism and it is a blatant lie. They can't debate anything without pulling the unwarranted race card. Despicable! They act like adolescents on a play ground.
I've posted it before, and I just assumed that grownups are willing and able to use Google if they want to see a video that anybody who follows politics should be aware of.

But hey, since you can't be bothered to do a search:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWBDWU7qES8
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Old 05-07-2015, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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We are not a nation of illegal immigrants.
Well, technically speaking, with 11 million living here for 10-20 years or more and having children that are American citizens, we ARE a nation of illegal immigrants. They're called the shadow people.
Lupe' has been cleaning someone's house since the early days of the Bush administration and her American daughter is getting ready to go to the local community college to be a caregiver.
There are a couple of heavy duty politicians who want to get this situation off the table once and for all and deal with it in a humane manner. They announced their intentions and they announced it early. All the republican candidates will not be able to step up to a podium without being pinned on what, exactly is their solution to the immigration issue.
Their answer will be critical in how well they do, moving forward.
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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If Jeb Bush will go head to head against the tea party republicans and finally solve the immigration problem, he'll get my vote and probably enough votes to beat Hillary.
What say you?

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush declared Wednesday that 11 million immigrants in the country illegally should have an opportunity to stay, wading yet again into his party's contentious immigrant debate.
"We're a nation of immigrants," Bush said at the National Christian Hispanic Leadership Conference that brought several hundred Hispanic evangelical leaders to Houston this week. "This is not the time to abandon something that makes us special and unique." A successful immigration overhaul is more than simply strengthening the border, Bush said, referring to "11 million people that should come out from the shadows and receive earned legal status."

Jeb Bush: Give 11 Million Immigrants A Chance To Stay
One thing for sure, Jeb is amassing a lot of "voter$".
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Old 05-08-2015, 08:49 AM
 
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I can't say I'm a big fan of his .... too soft on illegal immigrants, for one thing.

However, if he upsets the cretin feautured in this article, he does have a redeeming quality.

Jeb 'Put Me Through Hell
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Old 05-08-2015, 09:59 AM
 
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He's not even the best republican choice. Out of all the people running (alternative parties included) I wouldn't even put him in the top 10. Rand is the most reasonable republican running, I ALWAYS vote for an alternative party candidate, but this year (if he makes it through the primaries) Bernie Sanders has my vote. He's the first reasonable candidate from the 2 major parties in my lifetime. I'm doubtful he'll actually get the nomination, but he's the best choice for anyone who's middle class or below (which is nearly 75% of the country). So essentially if everyone would actually do some research and realize what's best for them personally Bernie Sanders would win in a landslide, but unfortunately the majority of the American public is incredibly ignorant.
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I'm not racist against white people- hell my wife is white. But I'm willing to point out racism where I see it. Here are just a few examples of Republican racism:



One of their main candidates (Ron Paul) wants racial discrimination to be legal. That's NOT out of context. He's on video explaining it- he wants private businesses to be able to deny services to black people among others. That's WHY he's so popular in his racist Southern state.

The Fox Republican News Channel constantly stereotypes black people as criminals on welfare. And while blacks ARE overrepresented- fact is that even more whites are on welfare and in jail.

Republican judges have just overturned part of the Voting Rights Act designed to keep racist whites from suppressing minority votes. And that's mighty convenient seeings how Republican state legislatures all over the country are doing everything they can to keep minorities from voting.



So yeah, these days Republicans are the party of racism. It's why white Southerners almost universally support Republicans- same reason they supported Democrats 60 years ago when Democrats were the party of racism.

Sorry if that offends you.
You aren't offending anyone, but you are making yourself look a little foolish right now.2 days ago you claimed there one of the front runners supported discrimination in private industry. Now you say, main candidates: There is a huge difference between the two. Now you mention Ron Paul, Ron Paul is retired, never wanted racial discrimination to be legalized and certainly is running for anything.

Fox news doesn't steriotypes anyone as criminals on welfare. Also when you call it Fox Republican News channel, you are showing your lack of knowledge. I am sure Juan Williams, Kirstin Powers, Bob Beckel, liz Wiehl, Alan C. Chris Walace, and Joe Trippi would laugh to be called Republicans. And yet they are all regular contributors to FOX.

And no we do not support Republicans for the reasons many supported Dems 60 years ago. I really do not think my children and grandchilden vote R. because they are racists. Especially our conservative Jewish son in law, our agnostic granddaughter, or our Hispanic grandson in law.

It really is sad when libs want so much to believe the other side are the racists ones. Have you asked Thomas Sowell, Ben Casey, Alan King, Mia Love, for starters if they are racists?
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Jeb was a neocon before his brother. He signed PNAC's Statement of Principles. He will not get my vote.
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Let Me Be Clear: The deck is stacked against Republicans in a presidential election. A significant and GROWING majority of Americans simply don't approve of the racism, hypocrisy, and upward wealth redistribution that Republicans stand for. As a result, the Republican candidate will have to win basically EVERY SINGLE SWING STATE to get to 270 electoral votes. Sure it's possible- but it's pretty unlikely.

And I never claimed that Democrats are above gerrymandering. They used to specialize in it- particularly in the South (which is now held by Republicans. See a pattern here?). But it's a simple FACT that Republicans could not hold the House of Representatives without gerrymandering.

Simply not LIKING the facts really isn't a good argument against them.



So was he taken out of context?

Or does he not really represent Republicans?

Which is it?
u

A little of both for starters. Now for the rest of your comments,I think my last post,a couple of minutes ago will cover my answers. you do leave in a world where your views are the only thing you have to make your point and nothing really terribly concrete. Someday you might grow up enough to smell the coffee and get over your whinning about racism and the Republicans. You might even realize the pendulent swings every few elections. As I have said, but you choose to ignore: how do you explain 3 very blue states electing Republican governors just 6 months ago. Oh, maybe you think that is part of gerrymandering? .
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