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Old 05-12-2015, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Hispanic AMERICANS, overwhelmingly do not want immigration reform. They want the laws that were passed in 1986, enforced to the fullest. Employer sanctions!
If they do want that, then why did Obama win the Hispanic vote in 2008 and 2012?
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:56 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If they do want that, then why did Obama win the Hispanic vote in 2008 and 2012?

How was Mittens different?

In 2012 in Texas....
Mitt got 22% of the Hispanic vote.
Ted on the same day, got more than double that.
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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How was Mittens different?

In 2012 in Texas....
Mitt got 22% of the Hispanic vote.
Ted on the same day, got more than double that.
You compare state politics vs the nation. Also there are many different nationalities in the Latino/Hispanic vote whether it is Cuba, Mexico, Puerto Rico or Central America. Perhaps Texas is an outlier...
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Tianjin, China
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Hispanic AMERICANS, overwhelmingly do not want immigration reform. They want the laws that were passed in 1986, enforced to the fullest. Employer sanctions!
Majority of Ameircans, not just hispanic Americans want immigration reform.
Poll: 62 percent support pathway to citizenship - Seung Min Kim - POLITICO.com

But, I don't think they should pick Marco Rubio because of his views on immigration. Hispanics care about a lot of other issues than immigration, and in those areas Marco Rubio is a much better candidate than Jeb Bush.
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:08 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You compare state politics vs the nation. Also there are many different nationalities in the Latino/Hispanic vote whether it is Cuba, Mexico, Puerto Rico or Central America. Perhaps Texas is an outlier...


Pretty sure, Texas has a very high hispanic population per capita, as does Arizona.

Where else to compare? Maine
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:36 AM
 
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How was Mittens different?

In 2012 in Texas....
Mitt got 22% of the Hispanic vote.
Ted on the same day, got more than double that.

difference is Obama is a minority dark skin.....Latinos sympathized with that and voted for Obama regardless of politics to be the first minority President and make history.


They don't feel the same for white millionaire Hillary.....or felt the same for white millionaire Kerry.....or white millionaire Gore.
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:47 AM
 
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Majority of Ameircans, not just hispanic Americans want immigration reform.
Poll: 62 percent support pathway to citizenship - Seung Min Kim - POLITICO.com

But, I don't think they should pick Marco Rubio because of his views on immigration. Hispanics care about a lot of other issues than immigration, and in those areas Marco Rubio is a much better candidate than Jeb Bush.
Polls can be skewered to fit a certain agenda. I disagree that most Americans want amnesty cloaked under the name of "reform". Just what views does Rubio have on "immigration". Amnesty aka reform has nothing to do with "immigration" but those here illegally in our country. Hispanics may care about other issues but to the majority of them amnesty for their illegal amigos is a priority to them.
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:10 AM
 
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Hispanic AMERICANS, overwhelmingly do not want immigration reform. They want the laws that were passed in 1986, enforced to the fullest. Employer sanctions!
You are totally wrong. The majority Hispanics of the Latino persuasion with roots south of our border do want amnesty.

New Poll Reveals Immigration Top Issue Driving Latino Voting - Immigration Reform | America's Voice
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Old 05-12-2015, 11:22 AM
 
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You know I didn't get that feeling after watching THE FIVE at all yesterday. I guess I must have been seeing a different version of the program. I thought they were pretty split on how the feel about him. It seems to me many on FOX are leaning toward Rubio right now. Of course this could be my wishful thinking. I just shutter at the thought of a Bush/Clinton campaign.
Rubio with his support of the Gang of Eight showed his propensity to pander to the moderates. That's what turns me off about him.

His comments here are pandering and a flip-flop while not trying to appear to be. LOL!

“At this point, bringing the Senate bill back to the floor would be a show vote,” he said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. “It would set us back even further—taking an issue that’s already divided people and actually going to stir the pot and poison the well even further. Why would I support an effort to do that?”
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/0...oud-and-clear/

This is the same type of answer that Romney would give when he was trying to back out of Romneycare.
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Old 05-12-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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You are totally wrong. The majority Hispanics of the Latino persuasion with roots south of our border do want amnesty.

New Poll Reveals Immigration Top Issue Driving Latino Voting - Immigration Reform | America's Voice
LOL!

To quote YOU

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Polls can be skewered to fit a certain agenda.
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