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Old 05-12-2015, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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We know from states with large Hispanic populations, that latinos will vote the name. It won't be enough for Cruz, but Rubio could get enough of them to win a few states no one thinks are in play.
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Old 05-12-2015, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I agree with most of what you said but the illegal alien kind can't join our military.
Wrong.
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A small number of young immigrants who grew up in the United States without legal status will be allowed to join the military and have a fast-track pathway to citizenship, Pentagon officials announced Thursday, the first time those young people have been able to enlist.
Undocumented young people who have been granted deportation deferrals by the Obama administration will be eligible to apply for the military under a recruitment program for immigrants with special language and medical skills, according to a memo issued Thursday by Jessica L. Wright, under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/26/us...ants.html?_r=0

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The Army has already allowed almost 50 illegal immigrants to enlist as members of Congress debate whether to allow them to seek citizenship through military service.
Since January, the Army has accepted into the ranks 46 so-called "Dreamers," or people who have immigrated to the U.S. as children and qualify for President Obama's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, according to retired Army Lt. Col. Margaret Stock.
And there are thousands more waiting to enlist, she said.
Stock helped create a program that allows highly skilled legal immigrants to enlist in the military as a fast-track to citizenship.The Army this year expanded that program from 1,500 enlistees per year to 3,000 per year, Stock said in an interview with The Hill on Wednesday.
Army already enlisting 'Dreamers' as Congress debates immigration | TheHill
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Old 05-12-2015, 06:35 PM
 
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Maybe you haven't met one but unless you have been living in a cave you would know that majority of Americans from Latino roots desire amnesty. Haven't you read all the claims by the left that the GOP must pass an amnesty or they won't get the Latino vote? Come on now, you know better than that. The polls, marches and so-called immigrant advocacy groups prove it also.
I pretty well discount the polls after talking with people on the ground.

Right now, they say that Cruz has no chance. I listened to every speech at the South Carolina Freedom Summit. He had, hands down, the best response of any speaker on the stage.
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Old 05-12-2015, 06:46 PM
 
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I pretty well discount the polls after talking with people on the ground.

Right now, they say that Cruz has no chance. I listened to every speech at the South Carolina Freedom Summit. He had, hands down, the best response of any speaker on the stage.
You have also discounted everything I said about the tangible evidence that the majority of Latinos want amnesty. Some people like sticking their heads in the sand I guess.

By the way, the people you know can't possibly be a larger number than those who were polled.
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Old 05-12-2015, 06:49 PM
 
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If the Army is enlisting these Dreamers then they must have instructions from Obama to disregard the laws on the books. All I am saying is that the laws state illegal aliens can't join our military. No surprise that Obama is once again making his own rules.
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:02 PM
 
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You have also discounted everything I said about the tangible evidence that the majority of Latinos want amnesty. Some people like sticking their heads in the sand I guess.

By the way, the people you know can't possibly be a larger number than those who were polled.
I don't put credence in polling. Most of the time it is used to shape opinion a certain way.
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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I don't put credence in polling. Most of the time it is used to shape opinion a certain way.
Aside from polls though you continue to ignore tangible facts. You keep ignoring that. Why is that? Here, let me help you.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/l...-election.html

http://www.latinodecisions.com/blog/...e-latino-vote/

http://www.nclr.org/index.php/issues...s/immigration/

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Old 05-12-2015, 07:29 PM
 
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Aside from polls though you continue to ignore tangible facts. You keep ignoring that. Why is that?
Would tangible be people on the ground? If so, I am not ignoring tangible facts. Polls are not, the majority of the time, proven facts. Think about the election in Israel and the recent polling in the UK.
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:34 PM
 
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Would tangible be people on the ground? If so, I am not ignoring tangible facts. Polls are not, the majority of the time, proven facts. Think about the election in Israel and the recent polling in the UK.
Did you miss all the links I provided you with? Where do you think these people are? In outer space? So yes, you are ignoring tangible evidence. Did you even read the links?
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:43 PM
 
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Did you miss all the links I provided you with? Where do you think these people are? In outer space? So yes, you are ignoring tangible evidence. Did you even read the links?
You want me to click on and have confidence in LaRaza? Are you kidding me? LOL!
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