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Old 06-23-2015, 10:06 PM
 
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I think you've missed the dem freak show with Cankles and the old bald guy. You guys have such a shallow bench that all you can do is worry about republicans. It's hilarious.
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Trump does have good ideals, but I do not like his tone and as far as I am concern he is just stirring the pot. Maybe for the good, but that remains to be seen?

Fiorina was successful for the record and HP is one best success stories out there.
If firing 30,000 Americans who had H-P and Compaq jobs and moving all of those jobs overseas, then Carly Fiorina was successful.

If Hewlett-Packard, the largest computer manufacturer in the world, losing more than half the value of its stock after the Fiorina merger with Compaq, then Carly was successful.

If Fiorina refusing to resign until the Hewlett family threatened to cash in their majority stock holdings, a move that branded Fiorina permanently unemployable as a top CEO again, was successful, then I guess Carly is successful.

After all, she did get a Golden Parachute, but has to live with the Worst CEO in History for the rest of her life. Success is what you make of it.

If Carly governs as successfully as how well she led one of America's most solid companies to the brink of disaster, then she's your gal. But not mine.
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Not really. In New Hampshire (6/23/15):

"Donald Trump is outpolling all other Republican candidates in New Hampshire except for Jeb Bush, according to a new survey released Tuesday. In a poll fielded immediately after their presidential announcements last week, Bush earned 14% of the vote in the crowded GOP field, followed by Trump with 11%. Nearly a third of respondents said they were undecided."

Poll: Trump near top of GOP pack in New Hampshire - CNNPolitics.com

Funny, the CNN article attributes Trump's placing high to name recognition but doesn't attribute Bush's placement to the same reason and here's something else not mentioned in the CNN article:

"The margin of error is +/-4.4 percent at a 95 percent level of confidence" (that is mentioned but, that it makes Bush and Trump technically tied for first place in NH is not. Let me know if you heard that on the news Tuesday night.

But egads, nearly a third of NH respondents were undecided.
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Old 06-24-2015, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Not really. In New Hampshire (6/23/15):

"Donald Trump is outpolling all other Republican candidates in New Hampshire except for Jeb Bush, according to a new survey released Tuesday. In a poll fielded immediately after their presidential announcements last week, Bush earned 14% of the vote in the crowded GOP field, followed by Trump with 11%. Nearly a third of respondents said they were undecided."

Poll: Trump near top of GOP pack in New Hampshire - CNNPolitics.com

Funny, the CNN article attributes Trump's placing high to name recognition but doesn't attribute Bush's placement to the same reason and here's something else not mentioned in the CNN article:

"The margin of error is +/-4.4 percent at a 95 percent level of confidence" (that is mentioned but, that it makes Bush and Trump technically tied for first place in NH is not. Let me know if you heard that on the news Tuesday night.

But egads, nearly a third of NH respondents were undecided.
By Gosh! It looks like Trump is the man for the party! Give him all the support. He already has all the money available in a large container full of junk bonds and casinos in forclosure.
Stay away from Bush. He's a liberal, disguised as a RINO, posing as a conservative.

Good luck.
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Old 06-24-2015, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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The lefties are sure worried about Trump. Look at ALL the threads they keep starting.
Yes, we're all utterly terrified!

Donald Trump - the only candidate so atrociously bad that Hillary Clinton even beats him in freakin' Kentucky!
Trump on the rise, but could give Clinton landslide - Public Policy Polling

What's it been, about 20 years since any Democratic candidate beat any Republican candidate even in a poll there?

Rest assured, Ed, the only worries we on the left have about Donald Trump is that he might not make the Republican debates. Because we want him right there on center stage, not debating but attacking everyone else on the stage - [hint: it's a Republican debate, so those he'll be attacking will all be Republicans] - without the slightest concern of the damage he does. We want his insane birtherism on center stage. We want his disgusting Mexican immigrants are rapists! ideas (that other Republican candidates - but not other Republicans, yes, I'm looking at you, Steve King of Iowa - are smart enough not to say out loud) out in the open. We want him rolling one rhetorical grenade after another across that debate stage without the slightest concern of the damage he's doing to the GOP in the process.

From a Democratic point of view, it's a shame the Republican Party isn't insane enough to nominate Trump.
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Old 06-24-2015, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I'm starting to suspect that some of these "polls", if legitimate, are just people voting for Trump for the comical aspect of it.
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Old 06-24-2015, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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If firing 30,000 Americans who had H-P and Compaq jobs and moving all of those jobs overseas, then Carly Fiorina was successful.

If Hewlett-Packard, the largest computer manufacturer in the world, losing more than half the value of its stock after the Fiorina merger with Compaq, then Carly was successful.

If Fiorina refusing to resign until the Hewlett family threatened to cash in their majority stock holdings, a move that branded Fiorina permanently unemployable as a top CEO again, was successful, then I guess Carly is successful.

After all, she did get a Golden Parachute, but has to live with the Worst CEO in History for the rest of her life. Success is what you make of it.

If Carly governs as successfully as how well she led one of America's most solid companies to the brink of disaster, then she's your gal. But not mine.
If getting beat by 10 percentage points in a US Senate race by a supposedly vulnerable incumbent (Barbara Boxer) is success, then Ms. Fiorina is successful.
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Old 06-24-2015, 02:42 PM
 
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If firing 30,000 Americans who had H-P and Compaq jobs and moving all of those jobs overseas, then Carly Fiorina was successful.

If Hewlett-Packard, the largest computer manufacturer in the world, losing more than half the value of its stock after the Fiorina merger with Compaq, then Carly was successful.

If Fiorina refusing to resign until the Hewlett family threatened to cash in their majority stock holdings, a move that branded Fiorina permanently unemployable as a top CEO again, was successful, then I guess Carly is successful.

After all, she did get a Golden Parachute, but has to live with the Worst CEO in History for the rest of her life. Success is what you make of it.

If Carly governs as successfully as how well she led one of America's most solid companies to the brink of disaster, then she's your gal. But not mine.
Being in Corporate America you can throw stones, but she right size the business with the Tech. Bubble.
Running a business you are not everyone's buddy.

The Goal is to keep the business going forward and the road to success is never a easy one. How many workers has GM laid and diverted to Mexico and Canada? Where was the US Commerce Department and or the State of California to keep the business on US Shores, to Incentivize HP to keep from out sourcing?

Maybe a preferred tax plan and or credits? This may have kept HP in the US.

Her exit package was negotiated by the board and approved by such.

Just think she may right size the budget and the Government if there is not funding.
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Old 06-24-2015, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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It's looking like it will likely come down to Bush and Rubio. Here's a question, if Rubio wins the Repub nomination, would he nominate Jeb and would Jeb accept? BTW, I googled whether a Presidential and Vice Presidential candidate can be from the same state and the answer is yes, despite the myth interpretation to the contrary.

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Old 06-24-2015, 02:45 PM
 
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It's looking like it will likely come down to Bush and Rubio. Here's a question, if Rubio wins the Repub nomination, would he nominate Jeb and would Jeb accept? BTW, I googled whether a Presidential and Vice Presidential candidate can be from the same state and the answer is yes, despite the myth interpretation to the contrary.
That is hard to say, by my inner self tells me Bush would not, but with Rubio's Age he could easily take on that role as VP
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