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Obama promise the World to those who would vote for the Golden one. As a Result in the real world that the rest of live. We have turned into a part 32 hour week job. The So called college Geniuses are competing for jobs at McDonalds and hopes to pay off a College loan grows dimmer.
Those College Dems may turn on the DNC as they become more worldly and get past the haze you call "Higher Education".
Never under estimate someone who does not have College.
Bob. You miss the point. No one is debating the value of a college education. I get it. However, his spin about non educated whites losing ground is off. My point is that people vote wallet first, ethereal distant second. They voted him in with the promise of better times. They gave him 6 years and gave a good showing of distaste and distrust in the last mid terms. Why! The economy. Across the board. People are tired of crap jobs when quite a few use to have better ones.
Had he delivered, the Dems might have carried the mids.
He didn't. And that, was that. One doesn't necessarily have to be college educated, let alone white or black, to know who can help you and who can hurt you. Apparently, the administration was hurting more Americans than helping them don't you think?
The reality is POTUS and off year elections are apples and oranges. for POTUS, the Dems do better with educated whites vs uneducated whites, and that has nothing to do with unemployment insurance.
Bob. You miss the point. No one is debating the value of a college education. I get it. However, his spin about non educated whites losing ground is off. My point is that people vote wallet first, ethereal distant second. They voted him in with the promise of better times. They gave him 6 years and gave a good showing of distaste and distrust in the last mid terms. Why! The economy. Across the board. People are tired of crap jobs when quite a few use to have better ones.
Had he delivered, the Dems might have carried the mids.
He didn't. And that, was that. One doesn't necessarily have to be college educated, let alone white or black, to know who can help you and who can hurt you. Apparently, the administration was hurting more Americans than helping them don't you think?
Caleb,
My point is that non-college whites, which historically has been the strongest cohort of the electorate for the Republican Party, is becoming a smaller percentage of the total vote with each POTUS election. White college grads aren't necessarily Democrats, but historically they favor Republicans at a lower rate than blue collar whites. When your strongest supporting group is falling by 3 or 4 percent with each four year cycle and being replaced by college voters who tend to favor Republicans by a lower rate, or by minorities voting against you by 4 to 1, it's a losing proposition. Eventually the GOP has to ramp up its level of support from college grads or increase its percentage with minorities. The disparity within the white vote between college and non-college voting patterns didn't begin with Obama, and it's doubtful that it will end with him. In some states the difference isn't that great, but in others it's quite substantial.
As far as the midterms are concerned, that's a long established pattern also. In off-year elections the electorate is whiter and older. For the last few cycles, the percent of the vote cast by whites falls 5% in the Presidential year, then rises about 3% in the off year. The important thing to note though is that if you compare apples to apples, (i.e., Presidential year to Presidential year and off-year to off-year) the trend has been straight down for the white percentage of the vote since about 1992, and all of that decline has been among non-college white voters.
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Eventually the GOP has to ramp up its level of support from college grads or increase its percentage with minorities.
Actually, they must do BOTH to compete effectively for POTUS in the 21st century. The nation will not become less diverse to conceal these problems they have had.
Actually, they must do BOTH to compete effectively for POTUS in the 21st century. The nation will not become less diverse to conceal these problems they have had.
You're right. They really have to improve with all groups.
Power involves the ability to change things to your liking. it takes is innovation/ and abiilty money to make the innovation work. Just as in past you could count on your hands the Americans that built modern industrialized nation ;nothing has changed .Except the wealth is much more distributed and many more creating the power. Who are the smartest guys in room and which as a party constantly hate on them. I can have a degree in basket weaving but that does make me intelligent. The unemployment lines are full of degrees which no one see as value to give wealth and power to.
The decline in their voting power is great news, since they vote the way of the bigot and racist. Our country is progressing...
So you calling everyone who does not have your point of view Racist? Let face it the Progressive Socialist Movement is try to take root and change American from a Freedom Loving country to a well regulated one.
You just may be surprise if you and others end to be on the wrong side of History.
Your thinking too much. People, whites, blacks, poka dots, whatever, tend to vote with their WALLETS. Always have, always will. Quite a few of those college whites are now unemployed. In the end, who carried Barrack? Whites.
Why? Because he promised the moon to include EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT (Read; buying votes from the downtrodden) Minorities I would argue have the largest percentage of any group sucking down freebies. just a hunch but hey, I never graduated college and have always voted Republican so what would I know?
I can't stand Chris Matthews but, he did say one thing that was spot on. "show me a person out of work and I will show you a democrat. Show me a guy getting a job and I'll show you a republican". I'm paraphrasing here but, you get the idea. By the way, these "non-college grads" are not just Republicans and quite a few are definitely democrats, union by nature and are sometimes unskilled. Just ask the crowd at GM we bailed out. Not exactly a bastion of right wingers, huh? You might also wish to check out the others that work at "the plant" and see if they ever voted Republican.
But, before you try to convince everyone that whites don't vote Republican and it's only a matter of minutes before we turn into the village people, explain the wipeout the democrats took in 2014 mid-terms. You know, because they either all got degrees or perhaps realized, freebies are not a career strategy? Just sayin '
I don't know why so many like you continue to spin the demographics of America. Believe it or not, 3 out of 4 Americans are white. About 230-240 million out of 315 million total. So your wishful thinking are whites are vanishing in the elections is laughable. Revisit the mid terms and recompute. Create some jobs and your guy will be forgotten as quickly as Perot.
The economy is not rebounding at the level you and the press would like to push but rather, we are turning America into a part time economy. Let's see how that works out for you. We haven't been this divided since the sixties and the buck stops at the white house. just wait until Iran gets their deal. Should be interesting times.
Smart money says Hillary just won't be able to BS as good as this guy and then you will have to rewrite your editorial. Those emails are heating up no matter how hard she's trying to hide and lie about it.
While this may have been true in 2008, things will be much different in 2016. people of all levels have gone back to work, and the economy, though slow, is steadily rising.
People do vote their wallets, for sure, but not always as strongly as in times of national economic peril and uncertainty. And increasingly, elections since 2008 are decided as much on social elements as economic elements.
That said, I take all big demographics like this with at least a small grain of salt. This isn't spin, for sure, but it's not necessarily a general view of things to come just yet, either. I believe 2016 will be much more like 2012 than 2020. The 2020 election is, I believe will be the real indicator of things yet to come at present. By then, all the factors you mentioned as well as the factors the OP mentioned will be in full display.
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