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Old 07-07-2015, 04:16 PM
 
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Originally Posted by incognitoe View Post
As stated D.UMP is nothing but a clown. All he is doing is saying stuff a couple of supremacist want to hear. It's what Politicians do.

Says one thing, but does the exact opposite. I find it funny how some idiots or actually eating everything D.UMP is throwing at them.

Sorry to break this do you Klan members, but D.UMP is not the man who will take you to the promise land.
His name is Trump not Dump and he isn't a clown. You're acting like a juvenile now. How dare you call Americans for the rule of law and that oppose illegal immigration supremists and Klan members. You should be ashamed of yourself!
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Old 07-07-2015, 06:17 PM
 
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Well, let's honestly debate that in the best traditions of the C-D, P&OC forum.

Trump never used the term legal or illegal in his statement against Mexicans. He railed against Mexico not Illegals. Then it comes out his clothing line is made in Mexico. do you not see hypocrisy there? I do. If you don't please explain why.

Second point, The way you conservatives have structured the immigration debate is.....you've made it so that anyone who disagrees with your position is for illegal immigration. This is absolutely not true. The vast majority of progressives and democrats want comprehensive immigration reform to put an end to this wedge issue. We want e-verify. We want a rock solid border, enforced to the hilt. We want all illegals who are criminals to be deported. We also want those who are already here to stay and continue to be part of our society. I can understand you not agreeing with that point based on your politics and previous posts, but I'm sure you agree with me on the rest of the reforms.
What I vehemently oppose is you and other conservatives who try to brand anybody who doesn't agree to the letter with your views on immigrants to be branded as pro-illegal immigration.
If I had my way SB744 passed by the bipartisan senate 68-32 would be brought up immediately by the republican controlled house and amended to suit the conservative platform and voted on.......now. You would get e-verify. You would get a strong border, you would get every illegal to report and you could amend how they will be treated in the future. but then there goes your unifying wedge issue and you're left with nothing to attack us with. So you rail against us and continue to do nothing.

Now what's your side of the issue?
This is very similar to someone who owns a Ford, telling everyone not to buy a dam Ford because they are a POS..

Someone who has been around the policies and procedures in place, can run around telling us whats wrong with them and it doesnt make them a hypocrite no more than Warren Buffet not paying "his fair share", telling us whats wrong with the tax code..
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Old 07-07-2015, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Actual Trump quote: “Mexico is not our friend. They’re killing us at the border and they’re killing us on jobs and trade.”
Are you saying that Trump said "Illegal immigrants" and not "Mexicans"?
I do understand that from the right wing corner of your universe, criminal, disease ridden, rapist, Mexicans and Illegals are one and the same to you.
The man is a real gem. He's playing all of his followers just like he played the birthers. The man has a massive ego that needs feeding so he goes where the food is. And who cares if he's a hypocrite?

At Trump hotel site, immigrant workers wary - The Washington Post
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Old 07-07-2015, 06:52 PM
 
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Again, it was plain that Trump was talking about Mexican illegals not legal immigrants. Rapists and murderers would not be allowed to come here legally. But he still wasn't calling all the illegal kind those things. He even mentioned talking to the Border Patrol. Why would he be talking about legal immigrants to the border patrol?

There is no CIR it is amnesty plain as day. That's why the Republicans object to it and why they objected to the Senate bill. There is no "reform" being proposed. Amnesty will not put an end to this issue anymore than it put an end to it in 1986. Now we at least quadruple the number of illegal aliens here today.

There is no reason whatsoever we should allow any illegal aliens to remain here. Rewarding lawbreakers never makes any sense. Americans need the jobs they are holding also. We can implement e-verify without an amnesty but the Democrats don't want it. So it is they that are the problem not the Republicans. The House Republicans just proposed a bill for e-verify without amnesty. We could also propose a bill for stronger border security that doesn't include amnesty. Think the Democrats will vote for it? Hell no! So no, the GOP is not doing nothing. They did just recently.
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Old 07-07-2015, 11:48 PM
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Actual Trump quote: “Mexico is not our friend. They’re killing us at the border and they’re killing us on jobs and trade.”

And yet, his clothing is made in Mexico. My god, this buffoon is ALL SORTS of stupid!

Donald Trump's Signature Suit Collection Is Made In Mexico

What's wrong with his clothes being made in Mexico? His criticism is against illegal immigrants coming into our country. It has nothing to do with Mexicans working in their own country for an American company.
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Old 07-08-2015, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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some of the line is also made in china.
Yup. And in 2012, he gave the Chinese a bunch of crap and was called out for being a hypocrite then, too.

When Trump opens his mouth, his brain shuts off.
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Old 07-08-2015, 12:47 AM
 
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So lets see if we can summarize the lefts outrage..

Lets jump up and down and cry because clothes were legally made in mexico while making excuses for people who takes money from others who kill gays etc, and support illegals coming to america taking our jobs.

Really?
No. Not "really."
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Old 07-08-2015, 12:51 AM
 
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What's wrong with his clothes being made in Mexico? His criticism is against illegal immigrants coming into our country. It has nothing to do with Mexicans working in their own country for an American company.
Riiiight. Because those are where the "good Mexicans" are as opposed to the "rapists."
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Old 07-08-2015, 12:55 AM
 
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No. Not "really."
yeah, yeah really.
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