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Old 07-26-2015, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post
familiar with for many years:

1) What is Trump passionate about except his own ego and money ?

Any successful people have an ego. some show it, some don't. I am an artist, ALL artists (especially the good ones) have ego, that is why they (we) are not likable. As long as he can get things done, big ego won't bother me. Although, I'd pay attention to his impulse control. I would like to know how he would react if one of the foreign leaders insulted his ego. This is important.

2) Put aside the showboat sparring with other politicians, over personal
squabbles for show, and very little remains.

1. illegal immigrants
2. trade deficit



3) Is it not distasteful to brag so much about how rich you are ?

Yes, I like successful people. He said he worth 10 billion, I think he has 1 billion tops. But he is still a very rich man. This is not a bad thing.

4) Donald Trump inherited a real esate company from his father which
was worth a half billion dollars many years ago. There is nothing exceptional
about his performance with that company. He did (4 times) bring parts of it
public to suck in speculators and left them with bankrupt, worthless shares.

He knows how to work the media, he knows how to get the right amount of attention in order to stay on top. He knows how to work the trashy pop culture, that is why he has successful reality shows. Although he is old, he is willing to accept new ideas. Inheritance is pure luck, holding on to the wealthy takes work.

5) Trump is purposely tailoring his campaign to be the focus of attention
on non-issues and personal squabbles because he knows the American media
and populace is enthralled with petty sparring, like a wrestling match.

Donald Trump is yet another political celebrity who can say whatever he wants without fear of losing the nomination, because he was never in it to win to begin with.

Ever thought about it? That is what makes him so likable.


6) Trump here argues for a weak dollar, but a simple websearch reveals many
comments in the past about how much the weak dollar helped him amass his
fortune, quite simply, low dollar = high real estate. This is a self-serving position.

7) A weak dollar impoverishes those who do not have great number of dollars and
who work for a paycheck, because their buying power is diluted. A weak dollar
encourages foreign and multi-national purchase of American assets. It encourages
immigration and foreign ownership of American properties, but does not encourage
American ownership of foreign properties because the buying power is reduced.
The weak dollar is a tool of the .0001% to continue widening inequality.

No argument there. But I do believe we need strong negotiators. They can manipulate their currency because we owe these people too much money. Our federal government doesn't know how to budget because we have too much waste.

8) Trump appeases the veterans by mollifying them, and encouraging military
participation, yet he doesn't have much to say about a wise use of the military.
He is an opportunist buyer of politicians - by his own admission - what would be
his criteria for military intervention ? It seems to be a low one that is dangerous.
He views military service as something for the little people to do, like cleaning toilets.

Not sure he views military service as something for the little people do, even if he does, I see worse comments about military service on this very forum. As long as he can solve the VA problems, who cares what he really thinks?

He perhaps think many people as total losers.


9) Trump makes a big deal about how he cannot be bought, however the real reason
for this is that he is a buyer. He doesn't have to be bought, but that is because he
is already one of them. Some men never sell out because they never had anything
to sell in the first place. He's already on the team, so to speak.

He is a buyer, that is why he knows how politicians work. He is now his own lobbyist, let's give him some time, he is the loudest and most exciting person in this election.

10) Trump seeks one-liner quips of intellectual reductionism to grab
headlines and make for entertaining tv, but don't make any real changes.
He's not bringing anything new to the voter for the voter's benefit or well-being.

He said he is the only Republican who doesn't want to cut medicare or social securities. He wants to make the country rich again, so we can afford all these feel good programs. This is his strong selling point.


11) His rhetoric is empty charisma. He's a perverse mutation of gluttonous
monetarism and patriotic populism that seeks to mislead the 99.99% that they
can "get ahead" by rubber-stamping the policies of the .0001%, when the truth
is that the .0001% must be reigned in because they have unjustly been allowed
to become the ruling class. Is America not about more than wealth worship ?

He "branded" himself as an anti politician. This alone makes him a bit appealing and likable than the lifer politicians.

12) Trump was an ideological tiddlywink who spent his entire adult life doing nothing
but accumulating wealth, hopping from wife to wife, seeking accolades as a business
icon while stealing money from shareholders and making large contributions to other
politicians, regardless of their ideologies, just because they are in power. This suggests
strongly that his moral compass revolves around money and power only, not deep-
seated convictions, and certainly not any selfless concerns about the larger world or
larger society. He is a man looking at the world every day saying, "What can I get from
you today", not, "What can I do to make you better today"

Moral does not mix with politics.

.
I truly enjoy this post because you made strong points hard to debate. However, we need to be realistic about politicians and businessmen. Quite frankly, I like loud people. They make so many promises, so I am assuming they don't mind being held accountable.

He (Trump) set the bar so high, and I have never seen anything like it. I love it.

I will vote for him because he couldn't do any worse. He will get a lot done.
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Old 07-26-2015, 10:20 AM
 
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Reason number 1 should've been simply this: He's a Republican.

Don't need the other 11 reasons when one will suffice.
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Old 07-26-2015, 10:33 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-EC74Ns6UI


I implore anyone seriously thinking of voting for or commenting positively
on Donald Trump to watch him in his own words.

Here is my impression of Mr. Trump, who of course I've already been
familiar with for many years:

1) What is Trump passionate about except his own ego and money ?
2) Put aside the showboat sparring with other politicians, over personal
squabbles for show, and very little remains.
3) Is it not distasteful to brag so much about how rich you are ?
4) Donald Trump inherited a real esate company from his father which
was worth a half billion dollars many years ago. There is nothing exceptional
about his performance with that company. He did (4 times) bring parts of it
public to suck in speculators and left them with bankrupt, worthless shares.
5) Trump is purposely tailoring his campaign to be the focus of attention
on non-issues and personal squabbles because he knows the American media
and populace is enthralled with petty sparring, like a wrestling match.
6) Trump here argues for a weak dollar, but a simple websearch reveals many
comments in the past about how much the weak dollar helped him amass his
fortune, quite simply, low dollar = high real estate. This is a self-serving position.
7) A weak dollar impoverishes those who do not have great number of dollars and
who work for a paycheck, because their buying power is diluted. A weak dollar
encourages foreign and multi-national purchase of American assets. It encourages
immigration and foreign ownership of American properties, but does not encourage
American ownership of foreign properties because the buying power is reduced.
The weak dollar is a tool of the .0001% to continue widening inequality.
8) Trump appeases the veterans by mollifying them, and encouraging military
participation, yet he doesn't have much to say about a wise use of the military.
He is an opportunist buyer of politicians - by his own admission - what would be
his criteria for military intervention ? It seems to be a low one that is dangerous.
He views military service as something for the little people to do, like cleaning toilets.
9) Trump makes a big deal about how he cannot be bought, however the real reason
for this is that he is a buyer. He doesn't have to be bought, but that is because he
is already one of them. Some men never sell out because they never had anything
to sell in the first place. He's already on the team, so to speak.
10) Trump seeks one-liner quips of intellectual reductionism to grab
headlines and make for entertaining tv, but don't make any real changes.
He's not bringing anything new to the voter for the voter's benefit or well-being.
11) His rhetoric is empty charisma. He's a perverse mutation of gluttonous
monetarism and patriotic populism that seeks to mislead the 99.99% that they
can "get ahead" by rubber-stamping the policies of the .0001%, when the truth
is that the .0001% must be reigned in because they have unjustly been allowed
to become the ruling class. Is America not about more than wealth worship ?
12) Trump was an ideological tiddlywink who spent his entire adult life doing nothing
but accumulating wealth, hopping from wife to wife, seeking accolades as a business
icon while stealing money from shareholders and making large contributions to other
politicians, regardless of their ideologies, just because they are in power. This suggests
strongly that his moral compass revolves around money and power only, not deep-
seated convictions, and certainly not any selfless concerns about the larger world or
larger society. He is a man looking at the world every day saying, "What can I get from
you today", not, "What can I do to make you better today".
"12 Reasons Donald Trump is an empty suit blowhard."
Your OWN per-determined bias stops me from reading any further!

A question for you. WHY are you so afraid of a very successful business man?
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Old 07-26-2015, 10:37 AM
 
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"12 Reasons Donald Trump is an empty suit blowhard."
Your OWN per-determined bias stops me from reading any further!

A question for you. WHY are you so afraid of a very successful business man?
Why do you wingers always act as if successful businessmen are an endangered species. They're millions of them in this country.

Geez...you guys are too easily impressed.
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Old 07-26-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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Why do you wingers always act as if successful businessmen are an endangered species. They're millions of them in this country.

Geez...you guys are too easily impressed.
You can say that again.
Lilyflower at least went over some of the points I made, even though I would
implore her to look deeper into why she really supports Trump. The fact is
there is nothing unique about him, his accomplishments (which, quite frankly,
many people could have duplicated or exceeded given a half billion running start
in the 1970s).
Here in CD, but also in other forums I participate I see many people enthralled
with Trump, but it's really his persona and the pleasure of controversial "gotcha"
excitement that is enthralling them, and nothing else.
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Old 07-26-2015, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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even though I would
implore her to look deeper into why she really supports Trump.
I don't vote for republicans governed by democrats. I know Trump won't win, but he is an anti politician, I like it and I think he is extremely smart. He does what he does the best, branding.

If Trump cannot be the president, he would forever be one of the best businessman in my life time. I admire successful folks like him. Republicans deserve to fail if they don't know how to draw a clear distinction between them and the democrats. For this reason alone, they should Thank Mr. Trump for giving them a wake up call they deserve.
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Old 07-26-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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I don't vote for republicans governed by democrats. I know Trump won't win, but he is an anti politician, I like it and I think he is extremely smart. He does what he does the best, branding.

If Trump cannot be the president, he would forever be one of the best businessman in my life time. I admire successful folks like him.
This kind of thinking never fails to amaze me, that a guy who declares bankruptcy not once, not twice, but FOUR times is "one of the best businessman in my life time." You would attribute idiocy like that to a publication like The Onion, but no, posters here really buy into it.

THAT, to me, is the scariest thing about Trump. It's not so much about the bloviater himself, but the fools who buy into his bloviating.
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Old 07-26-2015, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Reason number 1 should've been simply this: He's a Republican.

Don't need the other 11 reasons when one will suffice.
That constitutes a "reason" only for an abject partisan hack. If you look back historically at R presidential candidates, they run the gamut from Teddy Roosevelt (a progressive) to Nixon, Ford, Dole and both Bushes (big gov't advocates), to Goldwater and Reagan (libertarian-oriented).

Nixon in particular was arguably to the left of Obama. He imposed wage-price controls, Obama would not dream of doing that, with the exception of the perennial Dem charade of raising the minimum wage.

Anyway to reject candidates solely on the D or R is virtually a logical fallacy. I have voted for D's now and then. It's very infrequent, but it does happen.
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Old 07-26-2015, 11:31 AM
 
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Reason number 1 should've been simply this: He's a Republican.

Don't need the other 11 reasons when one will suffice.
^Spoken like a true low information voter. Before you get your undies in a bunch, I would say the same thing to you if you had said "Reason number 1 should've been simply this: He's a democrat".

Way to go---voting the straight party line like an automaton.

Are you saying that if Trump was a democrat, you would vote for him?
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Old 07-26-2015, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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"12 Reasons Donald Trump is an empty suit blowhard."
Your OWN per-determined bias stops me from reading any further!

A question for you. WHY are you so afraid of a very successful business man?
A question for you--how do you defend Trump's history of eminent domain abuse?

Donald Trump's Eminent-Domain Empire by Michelle Malkin on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

In the Coking case in Atlantic City, Trump wanted a house owned by an elderly woman, or rather he wanted the land for use as a parking lot for his casino. She refused to sell, so Trump went to his political crony pals to try to force her to sell.

How in the name of Ronald Reagan do you defend this lack of respect for property rights by Donald Trump?
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