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Old 08-16-2015, 07:06 AM
 
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This thread is obviously a Trump rally, no point in debating all the holes in his rhetorical plans. He's no different than ALL the rest of them, from either party, he'll tell you what you want to hear.
^^Said the Hillary supporter^^
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Old 08-16-2015, 07:10 AM
 
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You're kidding, right? You think a guy who has no experience in elective office, no verbal self-control, no concept of manners, and probably no abilities with mutual negotiating, should be president?
Absolutely! Trump has more brain and more common sense than this "community organizer" out of Chicago idiot we have as president.

Oh, and by the way. My dislike towards Obama is not racial since people like you like to throw the race card out because I'd take Dr. Ben Carson (a real black man) for president over idiot Obama. Just saying.
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Old 08-16-2015, 08:22 AM
 
Location: CT
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^^Said the Hillary supporter^^
Well, if you weren't so blinded by the Trump aura, you would have noted I said ALL the others which includes Hillary. If anyone is going to guarantee a Hillary win, it's Trump himself, unless he gets the nomination which isn't likely. The people have very little to do with selecting the presidential candidates, big money and oligarchs decide who you'll vote for, and they've got it covered either way.
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Old 08-16-2015, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I did not see the Trump on NBC this morning, but reading about it suggests that he still has no concrete ideas whatsoever and remains largely a gas bag.
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Old 08-16-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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Well, if you weren't so blinded by the Trump aura, you would have noted I said ALL the others which includes Hillary. If anyone is going to guarantee a Hillary win, it's Trump himself, unless he gets the nomination which isn't likely. The people have very little to do with selecting the presidential candidates, big money and oligarchs decide who you'll vote for, and they've got it covered either way.
I haven't heard any of the other Republican candidates bring up the influence of money in our political/government processes? It's sortof ironic I guess. Otherwise, Mr. Trump says, in essence, what others have said. Granted, he says it more straightforward & sometimes more rude/offensive than others but I've heard Conservative &/or Republicans say the same things, in essence.

I don't agree with many of his ideas but I like how he seems to be keep folks on their toes. & I like what he's said about the influence of money because it's reality-based.
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Old 08-16-2015, 10:25 AM
 
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I haven't heard any of the other Republican candidates bring up the influence of money in our political/government processes? It's sortof ironic I guess. Otherwise, Mr. Trump says, in essence, what others have said. Granted, he says it more straightforward & sometimes more rude/offensive than others but I've heard Conservative &/or Republicans say the same things, in essence.

I don't agree with many of his ideas but I like how he seems to be keep folks on their toes. & I like what he's said about the influence of money because it's reality-based.
That can also be taken as arrogance, he's said outright, "I buy influence", so emboldened by a corrupt system that there's no fear of any repercussions. Do you actually think, for even a second, Trump would end that? If anything I suspect it would only get worse because that's how he expects businesses to run.
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Old 08-16-2015, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I did not see the Trump on NBC this morning, but reading about it suggests that he still has no concrete ideas whatsoever and remains largely a gas bag.
Don’t kid yourself. You are not interested in ANYTHING he has to say, specific or otherwise. If he came out with a 25-pt plan you’d say where is the 26th point.
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Old 08-16-2015, 10:36 AM
 
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That can also be taken as arrogance, he's said outright, "I buy influence", so emboldened by a corrupt system that there's no fear of any repercussions. Do you actually think, for even a second, Trump would end that? If anything I suspect it would only get worse because that's how he expects businesses to run.
I get what you're saying. I agree, I don't think Mr. Trump is interested in ending it - he wants to control it personally, & for the good of the Country. The way he's different is he admits rather than denies that the influence of money has corrupted our systems. Others, deny the influence of money is problematic. As you put it, that's how they expect our systems to run.

The first step in solving or trouble shooting a problem is to admit it exists. Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, others have been saying they want to end corruption & they have recomended specific steps to take.
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Old 08-16-2015, 10:51 AM
 
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I get what you're saying. I agree, I don't think Mr. Trump is interested in ending it - he wants to control it personally, & for the good of the Country. The way he's different is he admits rather than denies that the influence of money has corrupted our systems. Others, deny the influence of money is problematic. As you put it, that's how they expect our systems to run.

The first step in solving or trouble shooting a problem is to admit it exists. Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, others have been saying they want to end corruption & they have recomended specific steps to take.
So we should elect Trump because he will control the corruption? Hmmmm..... might as well call him the Godfather. End the corruption? I think that would require reform of current laws, and there are 535 members of congress already on the take that are not likely to agree. Very difficult to turn around a corrupted system, look at Russia, oh wait, don't they have a tough talking macho guy as president?
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Old 08-16-2015, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I did not see the Trump on NBC this morning, but reading about it suggests that he still has no concrete ideas whatsoever and remains largely a gas bag.
Well, I stand at least partially corrected as Trump released a fairly specific immigration plan this morning. It is a plan that I pretty much agree with too, though I do think it will be very difficult to implement it.
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