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Old 08-22-2015, 10:40 AM
 
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I have nothing to hide, it is that simple.

Do you know what real freedom is? Americans are not free at all!
I covered this already. Repeating yourself doesn't change anything.
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Garden City, KS
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no he's not.. his policies will encourage the rich to hoard wealth and thus evade taxes because we dont tax wealth, we tax income..
Yes, NOW that is the way it is. But Sanders will change that, as spelled out in his tax reform plan, which you seem not to have read. He will enact speculation taxes on Wall Street. He will treat capital gains and dividends as income. And he will end tax breaks and subsidies for enormous industries that have more money than God.
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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Yes, NOW that is the way it is. But Sanders will change that, as spelled out in his tax reform plan, which you seem not to have read. He will enact speculation taxes on Wall Street. He will treat capital gains and dividends as income. And he will end tax breaks and subsidies for enormous industries that have more money than God.
Capital gains and dividends are income so......
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Garden City, KS
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Capital gains and dividends are income so......
Correct, so we need Bernie Sanders in office in order to finally treat them as such.
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:23 PM
 
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I just wanna call trolling on the OP. I'm highly doubtful he's actually French, but rather a right-wing ideologue who's trying to stir the pot. Unfortunately, it seems to be working...
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:28 PM
 
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I covered this already. Repeating yourself doesn't change anything.
I don't think you know what freedom is. Do you consider yourself free at this point?
But, I get it. You want to avoid the subject, no big deal.
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:41 PM
 
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I don't think you know what freedom is. Do you consider yourself free at this point?
But, I get it. You want to avoid the subject, no big deal.
I might not but I know that someone that believes its OK for the government to read our emails can't teach me anything about it.
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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By having a government that interacts in every aspect of your life by taxing every thing.
As opposed to a government bought by corporations and the rich, to profit by controlling every aspect of your life. You seem to be in love with National Socialism which is practically the right wing in the United States today, and hate Democratic Socialist ideas which is where the left wing would prefer to be.
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Old 08-22-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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I might not but I know that someone that believes its OK for the government to read our emails can't teach me anything about it.
OK, you made a good point. But, I do not care about that-------therefore ------ I am free.

Here are definitions of freedom from Dictionary.com:

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1. the state of being free or at liberty rather than in confinement or under physical restraint:
He won his freedom after a retrial.
2. exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc.
3. the power to determine action without restraint.
4. political or national independence.
5. personal liberty, as opposed to bondage or slavery:
a slave who bought his freedom.
6. exemption from the presence of anything specified (usually followed by from):
freedom from fear.
7. the absence of or release from ties, obligations, etc.
So I ask again: Are you free?
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Old 08-22-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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So I ask again: Are you free?
Not as free as I should be in a country like the United States.
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