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Old 01-27-2008, 04:43 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Did you know:

RP voted no on implementing the Kyoto Protocol
RP voted no on prohibiting drilling in ANWR
RP voted no on keeping the moratorium on off shore oil drilling
RP voted no on raising CAFE standards
RP voted no on removing oil and gas exploration subsidies
RP voted yes on banning Gay adoptions (doesn't sound very Libertarian)
RP voted no on allowing embryonic stem cell research
RP supports a Constitutional amendment for school prayer
RP supports the overturning Roe v Wade

Now if you agree with RP on these issues, fine. Otherwise, why in the heck would you be supporting him?

Orcinus
Great huh?

Oh, you somehow think the fedgov. interfering, micromanaging and running our lives is a good thing.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:14 PM
 
Location: DFW, TX
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If you can't understand states rights issues, then it's not worth explaining.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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If you can't understand states rights issues, then it's not worth explaining.
States rights, I see. That must be why RP proposed H.J.RES.80: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States authorizing the States to prohibit the physical destruction of the flag of the United States.

Maybe you can explain what does states rights have to do with the Federal government telling me whether I can burn a flag in protest?

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Old 01-27-2008, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Must be a Hillary supporter. That's her short list of things she'd vote yes for.

And that's got to be the 4th or 5th hit piece I have seen from that website.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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States rights, I see. That must be why RP proposed H.J.RES.80: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States authorizing the States to prohibit the physical destruction of the flag of the United States.

Maybe you can explain what does states rights have to do with the Federal government telling me whether I can burn a flag in protest?

Read the text. You linked us to it.

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States authorizing the States to prohibit the physical destruction of the flag of the United States and authorizing Congress to prohibit destruction of federally owned flags.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:

`Article--

`SECTION 1. The States shall have power to prohibit the physical destruction of the flag of the United States and Congress shall have the power to prohibit destruction of federally owned flags.'.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Read the text. You linked us to it.

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States authorizing the States to prohibit the physical destruction of the flag of the United States and authorizing Congress to prohibit destruction of federally owned flags.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:

`Article--

`SECTION 1. The States shall have power to prohibit the physical destruction of the flag of the United States and Congress shall have the power to prohibit destruction of federally owned flags.'.
This is on Constitutional grounds? Just like with his vote on Gay adoptions and his support of a prayer amendment he sounds awfully selective when it comes to his supposed Libertarianism.

Why did he vote no on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies in Jan 2007? Heck, this, along with drilling offshore and in ANWR he's not exactly the environment's best friend.
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Old 01-27-2008, 06:18 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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What is and is not the Federal government's responsibiliites isn't that difficult,it is written down somewhere.....
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Old 01-27-2008, 06:48 PM
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Location: NEFL/Chi, IL
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Why did he vote no on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies in Jan 2007? Heck, this, along with drilling offshore and in ANWR he's not exactly the environment's best friend.
Leftists blather about DRILLING FOR OIL! (OMG TEH HORROR!) like they blather about "the corporations".

They don't have a remote clue as to what they're talking about- they just know that they're supposed to be opposed to certain things, supportive of certain things, etc.

Oil and gas exploration, in the year 2007, is an issue of substantial national interest. Yes, we all want to see the day when automobiles run on love, good intentions and magical fairy dust, but until that time, when gas is at $3+ a gallon and severely taxing every component of our economy, exploring for resources is in the interest of our national finances. Seeing as we don't have an official government agency for oil and gas exploration, we incentivize the private sector to do so.

Presuming one isn't a complete retard, it isn't that hard to understand.
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Old 01-27-2008, 07:17 PM
 
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In the meantime China will begin drilling for oil in the Carribean
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Old 01-27-2008, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Leftists blather about DRILLING FOR OIL! (OMG TEH HORROR!) like they blather about "the corporations".

They don't have a remote clue as to what they're talking about- they just know that they're supposed to be opposed to certain things, supportive of certain things, etc.

Oil and gas exploration, in the year 2007, is an issue of substantial national interest. Yes, we all want to see the day when automobiles run on love, good intentions and magical fairy dust, but until that time, when gas is at $3+ a gallon and severely taxing every component of our economy, exploring for resources is in the interest of our national finances. Seeing as we don't have an official government agency for oil and gas exploration, we incentivize the private sector to do so.

Presuming one isn't a complete retard, it isn't that hard to understand.
We incentivize the private sector? In other words, subsidies. Exxon's revenue is approximately 1 billion a day. They are the largest company by revenue in the world. Exxon's earnings for 2007 are expected to be just short of 40 billion.

The only retards are the ones who swallow the BS the fossil fuel industry puts out about needing subsidies.
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