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Old 09-02-2015, 08:01 AM
 
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^^^^^this

Honestly if Republicans and Dems were trying to control illegal immigration, the first order of business is not the wall, but E-Verify. Then shore up a guest worker program for farmers, because they would be decimated were it not for immigrants picking some crops. Sigh..but we all know neither party will do anything.
No need to shore up a guest worker program for farmers. It's already in place. It's called the H-2A visas and they are unlimited. Only 3% of illegals are picking crops anyway.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:07 AM
 
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Um no, they aren't "undocumented" they have all kinds of fake and stolen documents. As I said, "illegal alien" is the immigration law term for them. People don't just get to change lawful terms to fit their individual desires or agendas and demand that others do also.

People are being deported for just being human beings? WTH does that mean? No, they are being deported because they are here in violation of our immigration laws.

Anchor baby is an ample term also. Obama has just given a stay of deportation to 5 million illegals with U.S. born kids. If that's not anchoring them to our country then I don't know what is.

Liberals, progressives and ethnocentrics are going to be in for a rude awakening this election and it's about time.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Um no, they aren't "undocumented" they have all kinds of fake and stolen documents. As I said, "illegal alien" is the immigration law term for them. People don't just get to change lawful terms to fit their individual desires or agendas.

People are being deported for just being human beings? WTH does that mean? No, they are being deported because they are here in violation of our immigration laws.

Anchor baby is an ample term also. Obama has just given a stay of deportation to 5 million illegals with U.S. born kids. If that's not anchoring them to our country then I don't know what is.

Liberals, progressives and ethnocentrics are going to be in for a rude awakening this election and it's about time.
No, it is CONSERVATIVES who will be in for a rude awakening this election, and it is well warranted. As noted before, the Republican candidate would need to win 64 MORE electoral votes than Romney won in 2012, and they would need 40% of the Latino vote to win as well. Sorry, but the chances of that happening are about 0.1%. Furthermore, polls consistently show that both Clinton or Sanders would defeat Trump in a general election. People are waking up and realizing that conservative policies are destroying the country and sinking us behind the rest of the world.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Conservatives will have to bow down to President Hillary Clinton in 2017.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

Or President Sanders:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/30/politi...ld-trump-poll/

Or any Democrat for that matter:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-biter-in-2016
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:19 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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If people truly want to get rid of illegals the easiest way to do so would be to enforce employment laws and mandate E-Verify.

Calls for a massive wall, English Only, etc are signs of ignorance and bigotry.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:21 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What would get them to self deport... There is our solution.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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We NEED undocumented immigrants so that the ratio of retired Americans to working Americans stays strong, in order to better fund Social Security. They need a path to citizenship. It is OUR failure to protect the border, therefore we need to admit our failure and give them a path to citizenship.

Deportation will only harm our economy. That's 11 million consumers....just GONE!
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Old 09-02-2015, 09:42 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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We NEED undocumented immigrants so that the ratio of retired Americans to working Americans stays strong, in order to better fund Social Security. They need a path to citizenship. It is OUR failure to protect the border, therefore we need to admit our failure and give them a path to citizenship.

Deportation will only harm our economy. That's 11 million consumers....just GONE!

Bullsh*t

Once the nation became a welfare state of tax & spend....... Illegal parasites feeding off the host.
Harmful for the health, deteriorated well being, slowing the host, and eventual death.
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Old 09-02-2015, 09:53 AM
 
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if that's the law then that's the law......we can't have nationals of other countries enter our country illegally with NO background checks and let them be above the law.


the poll should ask: Would you support a Presidential Candidate that ignores our Laws?



Trump should hit Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton on this and he will have the support of the majority of the American People on this issue.
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Old 09-02-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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If we truly needed immigrants to replace retiring citizens then we would do so legally not illegally. Illegal aliens have no right to make that decision on their own. That would be up to our government to increase our "legal" quotas if needed. Illegal aliens deserve nothing and in particular not our citizenship for causing all the harm they have done to our own citizens and violating our immigration laws.

We have 23 million unemployed Americans. If illegals were out of here they would be their replacements. Our economy would actually improve. We spend billions a year on illegal alien's social costs and they send billions out of our country to their homelands not spent in our economy.
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