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If those jobs are for the military industrial complex, then yes.
So, those articles, that prove, IN BLACK AND WHITE AND WITH FACTS, that Sanders claims to be against spending for the military and yet spends taxpayer money for a bunch of fighters that don't even work properly and are absolutely unnecessary for defense is a "strawman"?
What if Ted Cruz gave tax-payer money to build an abortion-drug plant in Texas? Wouldn't that be a scandal? Same principal here.
People already hate him when they find out about him. He is an extremist who has hated individual rights and liberty from the moment he got involved with politics.
I am starting to get the idea that this might be too complex for you to discuss, I am not sure I can break this down any more simple for you.
Why would Cruz bringing jobs to his state be a scandal, even if it was something he was against yet knew it was gonna be funded anyway and it was going to create jobs wherever it went?
I am starting to get the idea that this might be too complex for you to discuss, I am not sure I can break this down any more simple for you.
Why would Cruz bringing jobs to his state be a scandal, even if it was something he was against yet knew it was gonna be funded anyway and it was going to create jobs wherever it went?
Because it's in something that he takes a moral and political stance against, and spent a great deal of his political career attacking. 99.9% of people would read the headline "Ted Cruz signs deal to use taxpayer money to bring abortion pill factory to Texas: claims its okay because it will create jobs" and call him the biggest hypocrite since Jumbo Shrimp. Likewise, Sanders rails against the Military Industrial Complex (which I agree with) but then uses taxpayer money to fund a fighter jet that the Air Force didn't even want and has no value to actually defend the homeland and does a deal with that same military industrial complex as being hypocrisy.
How about this one...I will make it easier and try to use smaller words.
A child-rights activist protests the Catholic Church and its cover-up of sexually abusing alter boys. He is got sleeping with a ten year old girl. Is he a hypocrite, EVEN THOUGH he was sleeping with a girl, and not a boy? Yes.
And what do you say to anyone pointing out that he was molesting a girl and not a boy? Same thing I will say to you in regards to Senator BS "bringing jobs to his state": THAT IS ONE LAME EXCUSE.
Because it's in something that he takes a moral and political stance against, and spent a great deal of his political career attacking. 99.9% of people would read the headline "Ted Cruz signs deal to use taxpayer money to bring abortion pill factory to Texas: claims its okay because it will create jobs" and call him the biggest hypocrite since Jumbo Shrimp. Likewise, Sanders rails against the Military Industrial Complex (which I agree with) but then uses taxpayer money to fund a fighter jet that the Air Force didn't even want and has no value to actually defend the homeland and does a deal with that same military industrial complex as being hypocrisy.
How about this one...I will make it easier and try to use smaller words.
A child-rights activist protests the Catholic Church and its cover-up of sexually abusing alter boys. He is got sleeping with a ten year old girl. Is he a hypocrite, EVEN THOUGH he was sleeping with a girl, and not a boy? Yes.
And what do you say to anyone pointing out that he was molesting a girl and not a boy? Same thing I will say to you in regards to Senator BS "bringing jobs to his state": THAT IS ONE LAME EXCUSE.
So basically you give an example that had nothing to do with what you are talking about.....that makes sense. Sorry you can't grasp the meaning of bringing jobs to your state if a project is already going to happen.
Which in all honestly, you have diverted your own thread so far off topic that it isn't even funny....do you even remember what your own thread was about?
Actually there should be, and then from there states can go higher if need be. Currently though, the federal minimum wage is too low, even for Tennessee.
He is a hypocrite. Again, he offers NO EXEMPTION in his law for paid interns, but he gives his own campaign one. They are paid employees and under his law, he would make all paid employees get paid $15/hour no matter what, including other people's interns. Anyone not in his personality cult can see that.
That sums it up. He criticized the government for wasting money on "defense", yet he wastes the same money on "defense"
" Despite his anti-war views, Sanders has supported Lockheed Martin’s F-35 jet fighter, ignoring the hundreds of billions in cost overruns. It meant jobs in Vermont."
Only the fact that no one has actually read and critiqued the articles, but have just blindly followed their latest statists furher.
Now THAT is a strawman. What the hell does Gary Johnson have to do with Joseph Sanders being a hypocrite?
Actually, according to his proposed bill his interns would only be required to be paid $9.00 in 2016 and $10.50 in 2017.
Regarding intern laws according to the Federal government.
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If an employer uses interns as substitutes for regular workers or to augment its existing workforce during specific time periods, these interns should be paid at least the minimum wage and overtime compensation for hours worked over forty in a workweek. If the employer would have hired additional employees or required existing staff to work additional hours had the interns not performed the work, then the interns will be viewed as employees and entitled compensation under the FLSA. Conversely, if the employer is providing job shadowing opportunities that allow an intern to learn certain functions under the close and constant supervision of regular employees, but the intern performs no or minimal work, the activity is more likely to be viewed as a bona fide education experience.
You left a lot out of details out of your argument which is dishonest.
As far as his relationship with Lockheed Martin I'm also not sure everyone voting for Bernie Sanders is particularly concerned about his basing F35's there. Vermonters seem to have strong opinions of it, but I'm not from Vermont.
Your views are obvious, but I think you're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill to people who don't seem to be interested in the same things you seem to be so passionate about.
I never had pre-notions about his views on the military one way or another, and I'm still not concerned about them no matter how much you try to emphasize it. I think Sander supports legalizing some drugs, but again, it's not something I would base my vote on. Same goes for his support (or lack thereof) of Black Lives Matters. I'm not black, so I don't really care. He's mentioned his opposition to his war in Iraq. It's not an issue I'm basing my vote on. I am curious about foreign policy but I have mixed feelings about it either way so again, right now, I don't intend on basing my vote on stances of the middle east/Russia.
Labor law/issues is really at the forefront of my mind. A lot of the other things haven't caught my attention as a deal breaker.
I mentioned Gary Johnson because you haven't said much about him. Why not? Why aren't you trying to share more about the candidate you support? If you want to talk about somebody that would need some serious grassroots support, it would be him.
TLDR;
Bernie Sanders is paying his interns what would be above/equal to minimum wage until 2018 even in accordance to his proposal for a $15 minimum wage which would not be in effect until 2020.
If imperialism/any support of the military industrial complex are a concern of yours, Sanders may not be the best candidate to support. If ditching NYC to move to Vermont (for any number of reasons) is a concern to you Sanders may not be the best candidate to support.
Actually there should be, and then from there states can go higher if need be. Currently though, the federal minimum wage is too low, even for Tennessee.
As usual, far left policies and reality are not in sync (and neither are far-right policies for that matter)
A hundred dollars in Tennessee is worth $110 in spending power, while $100 in New York state is only worth about $87.
So we can easily see how $15/hour is WAY too much for a little state like Tennessee.
Why not let states decide this thing based on their own individual circumstances? Same with guns: should the same gun laws that are in place in urban New Jersey be applied to rural Wyoming, where one may have to wait half an hour for the state troopers to show up if someone invades your home?
The Dixiecrats ruined the concept of state's rights to the point that we can't even talk about it, regardless of the context, without being called "racists".
If B.S. wanted a socialist state, why didn't he just run for governor of Vermont and build a model for the rest of the country? Why try to force those values on people in Texas, Alaska, and Arizona who sure as hell don't want them?
So basically you give an example that had nothing to do with what you are talking about.....that makes sense. Sorry you can't grasp the meaning of bringing jobs to your state if a project is already going to happen.
Which in all honestly, you have diverted your own thread so far off topic that it isn't even funny....do you even remember what your own thread was about?
I will just say this: if anyone said "yea, he has flaws, but I am still voting for Sanders anyway," that would be honest at least. But do you know what you get when you have die-hard followers of a candidate who refuse to say ANYTHING negative about him or even acknowledge he is human? You have a cult of personality, which is exactly what Bernie (and Trump to some degree) have.
It is just creepy when someone has this much loyalty for a career politician. Even Ron Paul fans openly roll our eyes when he talks about the gold standard or saying driver's licenses may not be constitutional And Rand Paul almost flip-flops on defense, is against gay marriage and abortion, and comes off as a wuss...but I'll still vote for him because I agree with him maybe 80% of the time.
You and other Bernie supporters need to lay off the kool-aid, even if other people will pay for it once Bernie is elected c̶h̶a̶i̶r̶m̶a̶n̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶S̶o̶v̶i̶e̶t̶ ̶U̶n̶i̶o̶n̶ President.
So we can easily see how $15/hour is WAY too much for a little state like Tennessee.
Why not let states decide this thing based on their own individual circumstances? Same with guns: should the same gun laws that are in place in urban New Jersey be applied to rural Wyoming, where one may have to wait half an hour for the state troopers to show up if someone invades your home?
The Dixiecrats ruined the concept of state's rights to the point that we can't even talk about it, regardless of the context, without being called "racists".
If B.S. wanted a socialist state, why didn't he just run for governor of Vermont and build a model for the rest of the country? Why try to force those values on people in Texas, Alaska, and Arizona who sure as hell don't want them?
So ten dollars over for Tennessee is way too much for them? That doesn't sound like it is way too much for them. I am sure those struggling in Tennessee would be happy to see minimum wage increase to that amount.
As for gun laws, I would like it to be not so easy for criminals and nutjobs to get guns in this country no matter what state they live in.
The only time a right winger brings up States Rights is when they are trying to deny a group of people their rights. That is why it is called racist. Oregon just legalized weed, no one is calling that state rights move racist.
I don't know why Sanders didn't run for governor, maybe he felt like he could do more as senator. As for wanting to be president, Sanders seems to think this country could use some common sense and needs a president who actually wants to address the issues that affect Americans.
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And Rand Paul almost flip-flops on defense, is against gay marriage and abortion, and comes off as a wuss...but I'll still vote for him because I agree with him maybe 80% of the time. 
