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Old 10-07-2015, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Because both are one payer systems, paid for by govt when citizens are unable to pay and similar to social medicine programs around the world. Why is Trump getting a pass for touting a one payer system?

Seems like the the uproar over the healthcare system overhaul has now been long forgotten. Are you Trumpsters happy with Trumpcare being proposed?
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Old 10-07-2015, 04:46 PM
 
Location: USA = 2017 New Venezuela
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It will be replaced with something "terrific" Trump will work out some sort of a really smart deal with hospitals across the country to provide care for poor Americans
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Old 10-07-2015, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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All the while balancing the Federal budget, I presume?

But seriously, I can't see much of a difference other than the right to cross state borders to seek the best coverage......but the two plans sound eerily similar and no one is brining this to surface about three frontrunner. As I recall, the nation was in a huge uproar, tea partners specifically. Don't get me wrong, I feel we need a national program, just wondering about the sudden reversal by the public.
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Old 10-07-2015, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Sure, Trump's plan will be run by terrific people, be cheap and beautiful and make us great again.
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Old 10-07-2015, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Trump hasn't detailed his healthcare plan as yet. Do I think everyone should be covered and their medical needs taken care of? Yes. I think it is a disgrace that we have people going without the medical care that they need, make that US citizens going without the medical care that they need.

ObamaCareNot? No one I know has anything good to say about it. Our state opposed it with a passion.

I don't really get this about the "poor" though since they qualify for Medicaid and in some states, not ours, they now have "expanded" Medicaid. I do understand about making deals with hospitals since many are struggling, especially those that have a high number of illegals and have to provide emergency care to which the illegals go to the emergency room 3 times as much as US citizens. I know the one here is struggling and having trouble getting payments from Medicaid. We lived somewhere in the past where the hospital itself sold a sort of policy for care and it was so much more affordable than health insurance.

I would like to see Trump propose converting to socialized medicine and cutting out the insurance companies. Right now, so many jobs are tied to the insurance industry that no one is willing to do that. When we only had major medical policies, medical care was very affordable.

When Trump is elected POTUS, gets the illegals out, brings jobs back by using tariffs for one, we won't have to depend on jobs in the insurance industry that are bleeding us dry. Would make sense at that point to move to socialized medicine.

Trump is pretty familiar with how the VA HealthCare is set up as am I being a veteran. If he works out the bugs in that system, the entire country could convert to a similiar system. I have thought that long before Trump was in the picture.

So, without details, I can only guess that Trump would see things more or less as I do since we agree on SO much as everyone knows.

I know a lot of people are really hurting financially under ObamaCareNot. One payer system? He designs it and I sign on. I guess that doesn't surprise anyone either.
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Old 10-07-2015, 05:04 PM
 
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You forgot to drop Carl Icahns name. Usually that's a given. We vets will also get great non-VA privatized care......that'll cost a ton.
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Old 10-07-2015, 05:05 PM
 
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Donald Trump wants to replace Obamacare with a single-payer health care system, GOP congressman says | PolitiFact Wisconsin
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Old 10-07-2015, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Isn't that what the GOP calls socialism?
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Old 10-07-2015, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I don't see where you get Obamacare is a one payer system. It is government subsidized private health insurance. It was hatched by conservatives as an alternative to "HillaryCare", adopted by Romney as RomneyCare, taken nationwide as Obamacare and now being endorsed as TrumpCare (except it will be terrific and phenomenal with Trump). It's all the same insurance/pharma/hospital corporations profiting from the misfortune of the public while adding little of value to equation. Eventually we will get it right like the rest of the world already has, but I doubt it will be in my lifetime. Trump may have had the right idea back in the day, but it won't cross his lips in this election.
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Old 10-07-2015, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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You forgot to drop Carl Icahns name. Usually that's a given. We vets will also get great non-VA privatized care......that'll cost a ton.
Actually, non-VA privatized care can be cheaper depending on the area where you are served. I don't know if you got one but we got plastic cards that we can use if we can't get appointments in a timely manner, etc. from the VA Healthcare system.

Our state just contracted out Medicaid to 3 private for-profit insurance companies and it is supposed to save money. I have not seen the stats yet on the supposed savings. Sadly, they are not paying up and the providers are struggling with many dropping out of providing care for Medicaid patients. Another bright idea that isn't panning out.

We practice homeopathic medicine and only impending possible death will get me to go for traditional medical care. My concern is the racket that the insurance companies are running and cutting the middle man always saves a bundle.

My dad was a factory worker and my mother did not work. We had a major medical plan which was very cheap and my dad on his factory wage was able to afford to pay for all doctor visits, testing and medications easily. Gosh, we went to the doctor all the time because my mom didn't like us at home with her and it was still affordable. Shoot us with penicillin in the evening and we woke up better the next morning. Thus, my aversion to traditional medicine.
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