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Old 10-08-2015, 02:15 PM
 
Location: USA = 2017 New Venezuela
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They all sleep with the corporations. Every four years we hear how our next president is gonna help the middle class and things keep changing for the worse.

Unemployment numbers, Dow Jones index all a sham. I think we never really recovered from the dotcom bust.

I think even if a anti-establishment candidate won the election and he meant what he promises, let's say Bernie or Trump, the big shots will hold him at gunpoint and make him change his actions. "We'll kill your family and make it look like an accident"

I don't believe things are gonna get better. They are gonna get worse.
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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What?

No you don't. You eliminate that candidate from consideration based on the outrageousness and/or how unfeasible the promise (lie) is.
True, but none of what Trump has said is “unfeasible”. Before he came along you had to utter the word deportation in a hushed voice, preferably when you are in your closet. Now, they ask him what his immigration plan is and he answers those who are here illegally are deported, which can come back later like everybody else. Nobody bats an eye anymore. Talking like this at one time was “outrageous” and “unfeasible”. That’s what a leader does. He changes the landscape.
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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They all sleep with the corporations. Every four years we hear how our next president is gonna help the middle class and things keep changing for the worse.
You’ll be a fool to wait for a politician to lift you up. It is all on YOU. I have lived through half a dozen presidents of both parties. What I did for myself and my family dwarfs whatever they did.
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:21 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Just like Obama did.. right?
I think they ALL over promise and that goes for both sides of the aisle.
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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While some of that may be somewhat true, NO ONE has as many problems as this current President. He categorically and with purpose, lied. If you like your doctor....all the while knowing full well he had NO intention of keeping it...anything Trump promises on the other hand may/may not be out of ignorance or malice....my guess is that he has no idea what he is getting into but, I love his candor....something only a very rich person can afford to do.....Perot, believe it or not, was the same.

The two can tell it like it is.
I think worse lying from a president was "Mission Accomplished."
"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
“A Wiretap Requires A Court Order. Nothing Has Changed.”
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Old 10-08-2015, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The difference is Trump has a successful past that many hope can be taken into the White House. Things like cutting costs, balancing the budgets etc.

Obama. voted Present..
His tax plan puts us deeper in debt. He really hasn't spoken about cuts. He's a flip flopping snake oil salesman who says what the people want to hear. I don't trust him.
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Old 10-08-2015, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I think worse lying from a president was "Mission Accomplished."
Obama said as much. Didn’t he hold up Iraq as a model for the Middle East? He and Biden both. And this was a scant one year before everything blew up. This was HIS mission accomplished.
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Old 10-08-2015, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Dow, January 2009: 7,949.09
Dow, October 2015: 17,004.55


Unemployment Rate 2009: 9.8%
Unemployment Rate 2015: 5.5%

Wages have been stagnant since the 1980's.

In what reality are you dwelling?
Whats propping up the DOW?
Why did 579k leave the work force in September but unemployment stayed the same?
Why has income remained stagnant the last FEW YEARS when we are in the age of technology and we have supposedly recovered from the crash?
Why is the poverty rate still higher now than before the crash?

THAT is reality!
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Old 10-08-2015, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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His tax plan puts us deeper in debt.
Since when you cared about debt? Sow me one post.
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Old 10-08-2015, 09:34 PM
 
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"The economy has hardly budged since Obama was sworn in, the only difference is the economy is no longer collapsing, but policies were set in stone prior to Obama being sworn in which caused that, even though Obama will always get the credit."

Seriously? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL...
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