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Old 10-13-2015, 07:32 AM
 
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But you have already said that you are voting DNC no matter what. (your words) This includes anyone bought & paid for by the 1%. So I'd imagine, given that position, than any political discussion must be amusing to you. Or you at least have to say this in order to ignore the points made lest you question your own criteria for voting.
Actually, to be precise, I would be voting against Republicans. That is not the same as "voting DNC no matter what." As you know, I believe that we can't afford to have the likes of Alito, Scalia and Thomas appointed to SCOTUS again. That is the first and foremost consideration, but the problem is that the GOP field does not have a moderate - Kasich is the closest, probably.

Go ahead and nominate John Huntsman or someone like him and I would be voting for GOP in a heartbeat. But someone like him would get "primaried" by the crazy wing, so there is no real hope.

Mick
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:32 AM
 
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Stop right there.

Republicans are far more scoundrelish than the Dems. The GOP has an ongoing plan to disenfranchise voters who tend to vote Democratic; In Alabama, the introduced voter ID laws and then closed DMV sites in black majority counties; in 2004, Democratic majority areas in Ohio were allotted far fewer voting machines than corresponding white areas, causing many not to be able to vote in this state that made the difference in the election; in 2000, we all know about Florida and the purging of voter rolls; also in 2000, Bush supporters performed dirty-tricks against John McCain in the S. Carolina primary. This is not a comprehensive list.
Was the 2004 election stolen? No. - Salon.com

Ohio was gone over with a fine tooth comb. Nothing out of line was found.
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:40 AM
 
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Stop right there.

Republicans are far more scoundrelish than the Dems. The GOP has an ongoing plan to disenfranchise voters who tend to vote Democratic; In Alabama, the introduced voter ID laws and then closed DMV sites in black majority counties; in 2004, Democratic majority areas in Ohio were allotted far fewer voting machines than corresponding white areas, causing many not to be able to vote in this state that made the difference in the election; in 2000, we all know about Florida and the purging of voter rolls; also in 2000, Bush supporters performed dirty-tricks against John McCain in the S. Carolina primary. This is not a comprehensive list.
Yep I have personally been a victim of their dirty tricks here in Florida courtesy of our Governor and his conservative friends. I had to stay in line for 6 hours to vote in 2012. They cut early voting days and then those areas that voted for Obama in 2012 were assigned less voting machines. People were still in line when CNN/Fox had already announced Obama had been reelected. They created a mess so big they couldn't submit Florida results until Friday.

We still have the same governor, let's see how he handles it next year...
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Old 10-13-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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Did you read the link? To stop "insurgent" candidates, they are working to make delegate distribution proportional in the early states and then winner take all in the later voting states. That rewards candidates with enough money to stick around until the states that vote later vote and hurts the candidates that might win in the early states because they'll have to share their winning State's delegates.
Don't need to read the link. The actual rules on how the GOP does it have been posted by me several times. Do a search if interested. These rules were nailed down for 2016 and represent a much more fair way to do it. Certainly more representative than the DNC method.
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