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Old 10-20-2015, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Somewhere
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This "article" implies that the poll result came from Gallup . . . .except that Gallup has not published such a thing, as far as I can find. And, as previously noted, no legitimate news source has brought this up. Just a typical right wing BS, unless it can be shown otherwise.

Mick
Trumpets believe if they repeat a lie several times it becomes true. Notice how they have ignored every request for sources and continue talking as if It was already proven.

Trumpets don't believe in facts if they did they wouldn't be voting for a crook who has declared bankruptcy 4 times.
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Old 10-20-2015, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What can one attribute to Trump being so popular with Blue Collar voters? I would really like to understand. If Trump can win states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, then the election would be over.
Actually Trump would still lose winning those states. Have you listened to any of his speeches? He sounds like an idiot going on and on about how great he is, which identifies with the most simple minded of Americans.
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Old 10-20-2015, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The native Oregon vote has been red since JFK. It's all the transplants that make it blue. Montana has the same problem. The Blue vote in OR is a product of CA transplants and all the stupid hipsters/hippies that move to Portland or Eugene from various parts of the country. I can guarantee you that the blue collar vote in OR is extremely red and it's becoming even more red.
Which doesn't matter because the blue votes still outnumber the red votes.....and actually those red votes aren't becoming more red in Oregon, they are actually become more Libertarian and are starting to leave behind the Republicans.
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Old 10-20-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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Which doesn't matter because the blue votes still outnumber the red votes........
Nope. Completely wrong paradigm for the 2016 election.

Large portions of the electorate no longer see themselves as red or blue. That is the domain for the die hard political partisan. It is these swing voters, who will decide the election and any of them who are in the middle class, the trades, union people, etc will not be voting for the DNC.
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Old 10-20-2015, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Nope. Completely wrong paradigm for the 2016 election.

Large portions of the electorate no longer see themselves as red or blue. That is the domain for the die hard political partisan. It is these swing voters, who will decide the election and any of them who are in the middle class, the trades, union people, etc will not be voting for the DNC.
Then you know nothing about Oregon politics.
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Old 10-20-2015, 09:43 AM
 
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Trumpets believe if they repeat a lie several times it becomes true. Notice how they have ignored every request for sources and continue talking as if It was already proven.

Trumpets don't believe in facts if they did they wouldn't be voting for a crook who has declared bankruptcy 4 times.

Frankly, the U.S. has been bankrupt for many years, but the feds just keep printing money so things don't appear so badly to the low info voters. Trump learned from his mistakes, our gov't hasn't.
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Old 10-20-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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What can one attribute to Trump being so popular with Blue Collar voters? I would really like to understand. If Trump can win states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, then the election would be over.
Simple. Months ago he posed a simple question, something nobody else up to that point was apparently capable of asking:

Ford is going to build a $2.5B plant in Mexico. How does that help us?

With that, he changed my lifelong view on trade. This was not a one off campaign speech. He has repeated it at every campaign stop. He even makes a theatrical presentation of what his phone call to the Ford CEO would look like. You think blue collar workers don't notice that?
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Old 10-20-2015, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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This "article" implies that the poll result came from Gallup . . . .except that Gallup has not published such a thing, as far as I can find. And, as previously noted, no legitimate news source has brought this up. Just a typical right wing BS, unless it can be shown otherwise.

Mick
I looked all over their Trump stats - couldn't find anything that matched these results either.

The most recent report that they have up regarding Trump is this:

Trump's Positive Image Fades, Carson's Up
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Old 10-20-2015, 10:18 AM
 
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Lots more in this article on why the Democrats has lost this bunch. Their shear numbers will determine the election.

The Non-Establishment candidates get it.

Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders Woo Blue-Collar Whites
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Old 10-20-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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They are conflating blue collar worker with no college degree.
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