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It is time to bring our troops home! It is sad that people like McCain and that facist Rudy Giuliani believe that we should stay there for "100 years" or more!
"The best way to achieve peace is through overwhelming strength,"- Rudy Guiliani
What happened to DIPLOMACY? I for one am tired of spending our money and most importantly, the blood of our brave men and women in parts of the world that will never change and are no real threat to us!
Afghanistan was and is becoming a bigger threat again to us. Where are we? Bogged down in the nightmare that is Iraq. It seems to be a well-known fact to everybody else in the world EXCEPT Washington and the Bush Administration that Osama and al qaeda are based in our "ally" Pakistan!
If the Republicans and Fascists in this country want to stay in Iraq, they should spend their OWN money and hire private security details to enforce their empire overseas. As for our brave men and women of the U.S. Military, I'd rather have them here at home protecting OUR lives and not risking their own on a daily basis in that God-forsaken cesspool!
The American people have become far too comfortable and complacent in regards to this war. Some of the people that are running around screaming about how PROUD we are of our troops seem to vanish suddenly when it comes time to help care for the 200,000 of them that are left to live homeless on the streets, because they don't give a damn!!
There really can be no vicotry in Iraq, because there is no clear enemy. Terrorism is an idea and you cannot kill an idea. More violence breeds more terrorists. We could be there for the next 100 years and still be facing the same problems we are facing there today. The problem is if we stay there too much longer the US will spend its way into collapse. $720 million a day. We can't sustain that. We need to pull out of the middle perhaps with commandos staying in to hunt for Osama Bin Laden. We need to stop giving visas to terrorists nations and secure our border. Terrorists do not have means to attack us in any meaningful sense, as long as stop allowing them to pour into our country. I find it funny that John McCain is so pro-amnesty yet, anti-terrorist. There's more than Mexicans here illegally.
Can anyone tell me exactly what "victory" in Iraq is? Is it when that country becomes a full-fledged democracy? Not going to happen. Is it when every Al Qaeda fighter is gone? Not going to happen. Is it when the rival Muslim factions all decide to unite in peace? Doubtful that will happen.
What IS it? I haven't heard any definitive definition of "victory" and if the Republicans can't agree on what that means, how can it be achieved so our troops can come home?
"The best way to achieve peace is through overwhelming strength,"- Rudy Guiliani
What happened to DIPLOMACY? I for one am tired of spending our money and most importantly, the blood of our brave men and women in parts of the world that will never change and are no real threat to us!
Reminds me of the bumper stickers from the 1970's that said, "Fighting for peace is like ****ing for virginity.
Diplomacy doesn't require vast sums of money to be made or spent, hence why it is as unpopular as peace.
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Originally Posted by TnHilltopper
See this stuff, it is called Trinitite. This is what is left of the ground after a nuclear blast. It got its name from the first nuclear test site known as Trinity. A nice green glassy looking stuff… makes you want to buy some jewelry made of this huh?
Now, imagine an entire nation looking like the above sample, melted into green glass. It's not an idle fantasy. The US spent $5 trillion dollars (1950s dollars) building a nuclear deterrent capability that can actually do that; melt any nation and it's people into a giant slab of green glass. The USSR knew it, the world knows it, and Saddam knew it. The government of Iran knows it.
Either the deterrent works or it does not. If it doesn't, then the American taxpayers have been defrauded on a grand scale. But if the nuclear deterrent does work, then Iran can have all the weapons of mass destruction they want, they just won't dare use them. I doubt they would dare use them against the United States because they don't want to end up like that piece of green glass at the top of this page. There is no need to confront Iran over the issue of weapons of mass destruction.
As to the belief that Iran would spend billions of dollars developing a nuclear bomb then hand it or its technology over to terrorist groups is preposterous. Would the people and government of Iran risk utter obliteration by giving this stuff away? Unlike Iran, the United States has the ability to turn much of the face of the entire planet into that green glass so the mere thought of going up against such a thing should put even the most nefarious of leaders in check.
How do we beat this tactic to ensure a lasting peace in Iraq? It can't happen. Maybe we should ask the Israelis about fighting terrorism. They've been dealing with it since they became a nation, but actually have a self interest in fighting it. Us? We just trying to "spread the love". (democracy)
Another MAJOR issue to consider is that we are CAUSING more and more ANTI-American sentiment with each day we occupy Iraq and other Middle Eastern countries. Al-qaeda is at an all time HIGH since anytime after 2001!
Another MAJOR issue to consider is that we are CAUSING more and more ANTI-American sentiment with each day we occupy Iraq and other Middle Eastern countries. Al-qaeda is at an all time HIGH since anytime after 2001!
Yes... which in turn creates more militants who can brainwash the youth into becoming terrorists. It's the blowback principle... the one that Ron Paul gets laughed at for mentioning.
Yes... which in turn creates more militants who can brainwash the youth into becoming terrorists. It's the blowback principle... the one that Ron Paul gets laughed at for mentioning.
Even the CIA has acknowledged the blowback effect. But we tend not to listen to them unless it fits our aganda.
CIA: Iraq has weapons of mass destruction
GW: Well, we better attack.
CIA: Iran has no nukes and aren't pursuing any.
GW: That's a lie, we need to attack.
CIA: Blowback is real and we are experiencing it.
GW: No we aren't, that's just liberal propaghanda.
How do we beat this tactic to ensure a lasting peace in Iraq? It can't happen. Maybe we should ask the Israelis about fighting terrorism. They've been dealing with it since they became a nation, but actually have a self interest in fighting it. Us? We just trying to "spread the love". (democracy)
Or we could ask Northern Ireland.
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