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Old 10-26-2015, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I wonder how many companies might hesitate on moving out of the US until they see who is elected. If we start putting a tariff on incoming goods, that would have an impact and I expect that is coming since we either do it or die as a country.

Mexico doesn't need anymore of our money: Illegal Aliens Sent $21.6 Billion in Cash Back to Mexico in 2013 | Top Right News
The short answer is none. The long answer is that companies know that a president doesn't have the authority to implement a unilateral tariff. The Congress has that authority and could have done so already if it was desirable.

Trump also makes it seem simple, as most of his proposals. But it isn't simple, as such matters are also governed by conflicting trade agreements that the U.S. is a party.

 
Old 10-26-2015, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Everyone with a brain knows that big corporations have been doing nothing but moving factories to Mexico and China for the last ten years.

Donald Trump specifically mentioned this Ford Plant in one of his speeches and he vowed to do something specifically about this.

The executives at Ford aren't going to spend a fortune building a plant in Mexico given the fact that:

1). The GOP frontrunner has specifically singled them out and vowed to take away the profits from that plant to punish their treachery and

2). The Democrat opposition is the thoroughly unlikable Hillary Clinton, who is going to lose the general election even if she escapes going to prison over her multiple felonies committed while Secretary of State.

NAFTA and GATT were widely hated by the American public, and Trump could get those treaties undone during his first month in office with the help of pressure from the American public.

Donald Trump is already having a positive effect on our economy and he hasn't even been elected yet.

Of course all the apologists for the system politicians will claim this is just a coincidence. Really? I bet this is the only planned out-sourced factory project to be canceled in the last ten years!!
 
Old 10-26-2015, 07:06 PM
 
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The above fallacy makes no sense. I have yet to see a single conservative on this forum argue that there should be no taxation at all.

If you are not arguing 0%, then you are in fact arguing that we should take money out of the economy(your words not mine), you are simply squabbling over how much to take out.

Things like the bold should be backed up by a .gov link to the CBO study you are refering to. I will wait for such a link.
Another poster who has no idea what they are talking about.

Here goes that link.

https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fi...dentbudget.pdf

Chart 2-3

shows the effects of the stimulus range from ZERO, to MINUTE .2%

The stimulus bill IS HURTING US..
 
Old 10-26-2015, 07:08 PM
 
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https://reason.com/blog/2011/11/17/cbo-on-the-stimulus

CBO on the Stimulus: "A net negative effect on the growth of GDP over 10 years."
 
Old 10-26-2015, 07:49 PM
 
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Utter stupidity by large masses of people is extremely frightening, and quite depressing.
Yes, you are correct. It was "extremely frightening" and "quite depressing" to see Obama elected not once but twice
 
Old 10-26-2015, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by Boosane View Post
Everyone with a brain knows that big corporations have been doing nothing but moving factories to Mexico and China for the last ten years.

Donald Trump specifically mentioned this Ford Plant in one of his speeches and he vowed to do something specifically about this.

The executives at Ford aren't going to spend a fortune building a plant in Mexico given the fact that:

1). The GOP frontrunner has specifically singled them out and vowed to take away the profits from that plant to punish their treachery and

2). The Democrat opposition is the thoroughly unlikable Hillary Clinton, who is going to lose the general election even if she escapes going to prison over her multiple felonies committed while Secretary of State.

NAFTA and GATT were widely hated by the American public, and Trump could get those treaties undone during his first month in office with the help of pressure from the American public.

Donald Trump is already having a positive effect on our economy and he hasn't even been elected yet.

Of course all the apologists for the system politicians will claim this is just a coincidence. Really? I bet this is the only planned out-sourced factory project to be canceled in the last ten years!!
I'm sure this has already been said, but again, Ford is still spending a fortune building a plant in Mexico.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ant-in-mexico/
 
Old 10-26-2015, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I'm sure this has already been said, but again, Ford is still spending a fortune building a plant in Mexico.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ant-in-mexico/
And Kasich is looking the other way.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 03:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Originally Posted by Boosane View Post
Everyone with a brain knows that big corporations have been doing nothing but moving factories to Mexico and China for the last ten years.

Donald Trump specifically mentioned this Ford Plant in one of his speeches and he vowed to do something specifically about this.

The executives at Ford aren't going to spend a fortune building a plant in Mexico given the fact that:

1). The GOP frontrunner has specifically singled them out and vowed to take away the profits from that plant to punish their treachery and

2). The Democrat opposition is the thoroughly unlikable Hillary Clinton, who is going to lose the general election even if she escapes going to prison over her multiple felonies committed while Secretary of State.

NAFTA and GATT were widely hated by the American public, and Trump could get those treaties undone during his first month in office with the help of pressure from the American public.

Donald Trump is already having a positive effect on our economy and he hasn't even been elected yet.

Of course all the apologists for the system politicians will claim this is just a coincidence. Really? I bet this is the only planned out-sourced factory project to be canceled in the last ten years!!
It is notable from your post that you totally ignore the fact that the decision of Ford to move this plant to the U.S. was made YEARS before Trump was a candidate -- which completely undercuts EVERY argument that Trump had any effect.

You also ignore the fact that even under the unlikely circumstance that Trump got elected, Congress would have to pass his simplistic "punishing" legislation -- something they never did before and also violates other trade agreements.

What you are doing is allowing your own bias towards Trump and your disdain of Clinton to interfere with your thinking process. Once again, whatever you think of Trump he had nothing to do with Ford's decision.

I can see your attraction to Trump. He is a candidate that makes every complicated problem look easy to solve and promises simple solutions while ignoring the ramification and ultimate cost of those solutions.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 03:31 AM
 
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Trump successfully pressures Ford to move Mexican plant to Ohio

These jobs are in Mexico in the first place because of Bill Clinton and his NAFTA deal which he pushed onto the American people. King Hillary, of course, is a globalist just like her husband and loves sending jobs overseas because it benefits her 1% friends in the Hamptons.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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how much it cost him?
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