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Old 10-31-2015, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Nescopeck, Penna. (birthplace)
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And Conservatives don't name call... What do you call it when we see the words socialist, progressive and Marxist thrown around? Surely that isn't name calling.
No, I call it accuracy.

The difference between a Third-World strongman, a Marxist totalitarian, a religiously-based ideologue, an influence-peddling "crony capitalist", a self-righteous European Socialist, and a "progressive" Democrat is merely one of intensity, and not of orientation. Unlike the Objectivist and libertarian segments of the conservative spectrum, they all seek access to the legal monopoly on the use of coercion granted to the central government, in order to force their self-defined, supposedly-"moral" point of view on everybody else.

They can't afford to moderate their plans even to a point where the principles of charity might be retained, but the centralization of their power denied. And when they are refused this through the free exchange of human opinion, they go looking for stronger methods of "persuasion". Or they over-simplify the scientific and technical facts that get in the way, and go trawling for the support of the young, the impressionable, and the perpetually-insecure. They are afraid of freedom, and even more afraid of reason.

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Old 10-31-2015, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Punta Gorda, FL
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There's a lot of talk about Donald Trump lately
Why do people hate him thou?
Since this is asked in Elections...
Donald Trump has no experience governing a town, city, county, state or nation. He's not qualified to be President of the United States. He says his experience running a business qualifies him. His business is not a democracy, it's a dictatorship. If you want a dictator, vote for Trump.

I can't understand why Trump and Carson and Fiorino and anyone else who has never governed in a democratic environment is even being considered for our highest office. It's nuts!

Trump and Fiorino run (ran) dictatorships. Fiorino ran hers into the ground. Carson has shown himself to be no better than PT Barnum, looking for the next sucker he can sell Manna to. What do his voters think he'll do if elected? GIVE them Manna?

Why are these people even being considered by the voters? Because they are entertaining?

History will look back on this time as the time when the voters lost their marbles.
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Old 10-31-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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History will look back on this time as the time when the voters lost their marbles.

And what experience did your idol Obama have?

History will look back on this time as the time when the voters lost their marbles---IF someone like Hillary or Jeb gets elected and we have the same old, same old. You know, another politician who is beholden to their mega rich donors and puts these donors ahead of their constituents.

If the voters reject the same old, same old then history will remember this time as the time when Americans took back their country.
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Old 10-31-2015, 01:12 PM
 
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Hey, some people just like to hate. Whether it's George W Bush or Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld or Sarah Palin or Ted Cruz or Michelle Bachman or Allen West or Ben Carson or Donald Trump, they gonna hate on them.
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Old 10-31-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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This is the general ideology for the voting public....about 33% of them are like myself, MODERATES.....and our votes can determine which of the two party's candidate get the White House. Putting in someone with extreme positions (ie. Cruz), will give the Democrats another four years POTUS.

You might want to select a more moderate candidate (ie Kasich) who the moderates can stomach and not Cruz, Carson, Trump.

Just sayin'.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/180452/li...ervatives.aspx
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Old 10-31-2015, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
The @WSJ Wall Street Journal loves to write badly about me. They better be careful or I will unleash big time on them. Look forward to it!

Tweet by Clown Trump is sounding more and more like Vladdy Putin every day.

Am I right or am I right?
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Old 10-31-2015, 02:26 PM
 
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There's a lot of talk about Donald Trump lately
Why do people hate him thou?
Because he's right,not afraid to speak his mind,and can accomplish what he says he can. It scares the hell out of people. He CAN'T be controlled by corporations because he is rich enough to fund his own campaign. I think its GREAT!
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Old 10-31-2015, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Trump not exactly self-funding his campaign
The majority of money has come from donors. He’s made loans and in-kind contributions.

Donald Trump 2016 campaign raises $3.9 million - POLITICO
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Old 10-31-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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This is the general ideology for the voting public....about 33% of them are like myself, MODERATES.....and our votes can determine which of the two party's candidate get the White House. Putting in someone with extreme positions (ie. Cruz), will give the Democrats another four years POTUS.

You might want to select a more moderate candidate (ie Kasich) who the moderates can stomach and not Cruz, Carson, Trump.

Just sayin'.


U.S. Liberals at Record 24%, but Still Trail Conservatives
You mean mushy people not strong enough to take a stance either left or right....this is a surprise?
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Old 10-31-2015, 02:32 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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For one he is arrogant to a fault, obnoxious and did I mention arrogant. He's the kind of person who is easy to hate. He is an elitist. However, that doesn't make him wrong. He is right about illegal immigration and our southern border. He is right about government waste and excessive spending. He is right that our tax system is deeply flawed. He is right that career politician don't have a clue what America wants or needs, they only go with the party line and those they owe.
Who is more knowledgeable about creating jobs? A politician who has never owned a business, hasn't held a private job in years, or someone who has done all the above? Me? My money is on the guy who has done it.
Trump won't get my vote unless it is between him and Hillary or him and Sanders. I prefer a more moderate leader who is willing to compromise and find solutions.
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