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Old 10-30-2015, 02:27 PM
 
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They've only "suspended" their relationship with telemundo and NBC for the debate. They still have the relationship with National Review (go figure, LOL). This looks to be a publicity stunt to play to the old, but ever popular media blame game for the base. I suspect they will kiss and make up once the RNC has milked it for what they can much as the Fox/Trump saga has unfolded.
Of course it's a PR stunt. The GOP is fragmented and they want unity so find a common enemy, in this case the evildoer Mass media. According to them mass media is never manipulated by the right

 
Old 10-30-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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Don't forget - some of them complained about the prior debate being 3 hours long. They didn't want to stand that long.

Seems every debate they had complaints. Heck, they have been doing non-stop complaining for the past 8 years.

All they do is whine. About everything.
 
Old 10-30-2015, 02:43 PM
 
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I have no idea as I'm not sure who I'm voting for yet. And although I'm a Democrat - I will not be voting for Hillary or Sanders.

If it's such a joke - why then are all the media outlets pummeling CNBC

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news...94.html?ref=gs

This is exactly why I don't consider myself a modern day Democrat. There are no serious discussions - it's a bunch of jokes and name calling. Democrats today have an I am right and you are wrong attitude - they can't think for themselves and unfortunately the Donkey symbol - fits most of you to a T.

I use to be able to have really good discussions or debates with both Republicans and Democrats. The last Democratic friend I disagreed with removed me as her friend on Facebook because I sent her an Obama joke. Instead of being an adult and just saying please don't send me any more of those jokes - they offend me - I got a long diatribe about her supporting our president and how dare I think any joke about him is funny.

All I can say is Grow UP!
Great post and I agree with some Democrat views but just a few since most are just giving away other peoples money and soon you run out of money and they never want to give their own.

I get along with most people with different views and on a daily base deal with a person who voted for Obama twice and regrets it and I'm not going to say "I told you so" but inside I would laugh my As. Off if it wasn't so sad that we are in the situation of dealing with his mess and in real estate we deal with many of the bad new regulations.

The new AC guidelines hurt people who can't afford the new systems as Obama wanted the cleaner options in a bad economy and there are many other things we hear and see daily that hurt especially the middle class. The poor aren't paying for any of that or they just walk away from having to pay but the rest is hurting.
 
Old 10-30-2015, 02:47 PM
 
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Don't forget - some of them complained about the prior debate being 3 hours long. They didn't want to stand that long.

Seems every debate they had complaints. Heck, they have been doing non-stop complaining for the past 8 years.

All they do is whine. About everything.
It worked for Trump with Megan Kelly, so they decided to take it to another level.
 
Old 10-30-2015, 02:48 PM
 
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Some great tweets following the GOP's decision to suspend the NBC debate in Houston because of so called "gotcha" questions asked by the CNBC moderators on Wednesday:

"Talks big game about standing up to ISIS, runs away from NBC."

"It's a debate run by journalists, not an infomercial stacked with your fans."

"GOP candidates have to be protected from uppity moderators. Need to save their best tough guy lines for Putin."

"Oh for God's sake. Do they really think their voters are this moronic?"

I think this thread answers the last question quite succinctly. (And the answer is yes.)

Twitter hilariously mocks RNC
TeeHee - see how effective the media is...the democrats don't care that the moderators were playing to the "Reality TV" mentality, as long as the democrats can use it to make disparaging comments about "the other team." It is not about the media's perception and lack of respect for the audience, nah, it's all about "the clown car" and "the skeerdy kat RNC."

Hmmm, Nero fiddled while Rome burned, Democrats mock while America burns....
 
Old 10-30-2015, 02:53 PM
 
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No way I'm voting for Trump but I love him for doing what he is doing. His exchange with Quick is the game changer.

Yes, she was right but what happened when Trump Challenged her? She backed down, apologized and admitted she was not prepared to ask the question she asked.
 
Old 10-30-2015, 02:56 PM
 
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you need to visit the other threads - there were ample questions that the politicians skirted or were clueless about, or flatout lied about......CBNC interviews CEOs of corporations all the time on their channel in the same manner. Too bad politicians can't hold their own when put through the same scrutiny.....

Here are the questions courtesy of another poster from another thread......
1. Candidates what is your biggest weakness?
2. Trump tax plan
3. Carson Tax plan
4. Kasich's comments about other candidates' crazy proposals
5. Fiorina's tax code
6. Rubio's senate voting record
7. Bush Republican Party has given in to know- nothingism
8. Fiorina HP record, why should we hire you?
9. Cruz opposition to debt ceiling, not being a problem-solver
DEBATE INTERRUPTION: CRUZ BIATCHING
10. Paul- oppose Boehner's budget deal because it doesn't cut Medicare, Social Security
11. Paul _ why did Paul Ryan vote for the budget deal
12. Christie raise the retirement age for Social Security, cut benefits
13. Huckabee social security
14. Trum's bankruptcies
15. Carson - Controlling price increases of drugs
16. Christy sending to jail those responsible for the 2008 financial crises
17. Bush Tax increases
18. Fiorina Internet Tax
19. Rubio poor personal finances, foreclosure
20. Kasich subsidies, incentives
21. Cruz working women, pay
22. Carson views on Homosexuality
23. Carson's relationship with company involved in a deceptive marketing lawsuit
24. Rubio H1B visas, abuse of those visas
25. Trump criticism of Zuckerberg's comment of wanting to increase H1b visas
26. Cruz criticism of the Fed
27. Paul Criticism f the Fed
28. Carson subsidies (oil)
29. Huckabee's plan to decrease income inequality
30. Bush tax plan
31. Rubio tax plan
32. Kasich legalizing and taxing marihuana
33. Trump in favor or agains h1b visas
34. Trump bringing guns to work
35. Huckabee: Trump's moral authority to unite the country
36. Fiorina: Government sponsoring retirement plans, 401k
37. Kasich: cost of education
38. Bush: should government treat fantasy sports as gambling?
39. Christie: climate change, why should we do about it
40. Paul: Should we oppose Medicare?
41. Trump: Growing the economy without cutting Medicare and Social Security
42. Carson replacing Medicare
CLOSING STATEMENTS

Source if anybody cares: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...he-transcript/
And had they actually asked the questions in a non-confrontational or accusatory manner, they would have received answers, but if you look at how those questions were actually asked, you will see that they were set ups meant to force a response.

Example: Q9 to Cruz: The question ended with the moderator asking Cruz if his opposition proves he is not a problem solver. Was he supposed to just say "Why yes of course." Or just say "No." The questions were not, "tell us your tax plan..." They were, "your tax plan is wrong, tell us why" , "You want to destroy SS and Medicare" People won't like that, so how can you suggest such an evil thing?

Again, perhaps their were substantive questions, but they were surround by "when did you stop beating your wife?" accusations that made it impossible for the candidates to actually impart information that would benefit the electorate. Exactly what the media intended!
 
Old 10-30-2015, 02:58 PM
 
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The GOP is beginning to realize that they are unable to win another general election. The Democrats already have a strong Electoral College advantage, and with the GOP's constant bickering over each other, the media, constantly blaming Obama & Hillary for rich people's problems, they are falling more and more behind. I think it will be too late before they wake up, and Hillary (ugh) will win in a landslide.
 
Old 10-30-2015, 02:59 PM
 
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as an undecided Independent voter, I see the GOP as a bunch of bumbling idiots led by Reince Priebus.....and now they're taking their balls and going home ----- they want me to vote for one of these candidates?
"undecided independent voter" Right. I bet I can guess who you voted for Prez the last two elections and how you voted down ticket as well. But you keep telling yourself that you are an "undecided independent voter."
 
Old 10-30-2015, 03:01 PM
 
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I'm not a fan of any of the Republican candidates and I can't really see any of them as president. Democrats either but that's another topic.
With that said, how CNBC handled the debate was an amateur level joke. An embarrassment of the highest order and they are rightly being called out on it.

Becky Quick being utterly unprepared when Trump denied her question AND SHE WAS RIGHT but she didn't bother to do any preparation and note down the source! Then she asks HIM where the question came from and set her and CNBC up for an epic takedown and audience laugh at her/their expense from Trump.

Harwood got caught lying, twice! Once by Rubio and then at the end by Trump.

There have got to be middle school debate teams who would have done a better job.
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