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Old 11-05-2015, 08:25 PM
 
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Hilary isn't courting the old, white vote, and most older white males won't vote for her regardless of who here running mate is. Kaine, Warner, or McAuliffe won't help her the way Castro would.


Hispanics identify with Rubio only slightly more than Cruz, who comes off as more of a doofus Texan than Hispanic. Assuming Rubio has wide Hispanic appeal is like assuming Carson has wide AA appeal, when in fact neither do.

You're probably right about TX: Hilary doesn't have a plausible chance of winning it. But Cruz Cruz would probably greatly improve her chances in NV, CO, and a couple other swing states.
1. Castro would not help her win swing states. Does Virginia have a large Hispanic population? Maybe, but probably not enough to justify picking Castro over a Virginian. Does Ohio have a large Hispanic population? In proportion to other states, I doubt it. Would a Mexican appeal to the numerous Cubans and Puerto Ricans who live in Florida? Not as much as a born and bread Cuban would. Electorally, Castro makes no sense.
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:29 PM
 
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Not only that, but Democrats are eager to keep Virginia blue. What better way is there to do that than picking a popular Virginian for the VP spot?
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:05 PM
 
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1. Castro would not help her win swing states. Does Virginia have a large Hispanic population? Maybe, but probably not enough to justify picking Castro over a Virginian. Does Ohio have a large Hispanic population? In proportion to other states, I doubt it. Would a Mexican appeal to the numerous Cubans and Puerto Ricans who live in Florida? Not as much as a born and bread Cuban would. Electorally, Castro makes no sense.
What about NV and CO? Both states have a high Hispanic population. While OH has a fairly low population of Hispanics overall, it's increased by 76% over the last 15% years.

Castro would do more for her in FL than any of the white Virginians you mentioned would. Old white males aren't the future, while Hispanics are. Hilary is smart enough to know that.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:17 PM
 
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What about NV and CO? Both states have a high Hispanic population. While OH has a fairly low population of Hispanics overall, it's increased by 76% over the last 15% years.

Castro would do more for her in FL than any of the white Virginians you mentioned would. Old white males aren't the future, while Hispanics are. Hilary is smart enough to know that.
Is she smart to pick someone who has little elected experience, did little as Mayor of San Antonio, and has ties to La Raza? The last thing Clinton needs is more instability and scandal in her campaign. In reading my tea leaves, I honestly think that Clinton wants someone more stable who would appeal to middle America. She is failing miserably with Independents, and an uber-liberal Castro won't help her any. You're under the belief that all of America is craving more uber-liberal politicians, but they're not. Maybe the Democratic Party is, but not Independents and moderates.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:26 PM
 
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Does being mayor of San Antonio really qualify you to be Vice President?

I get that politically having someone young and hispanic might be helpful, especially if Rubio is the opponent, but it seems like a real reach to me.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:40 PM
 
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He is seen as a rising star in the party, and some have called him "the Next Obama". I mean, President Obama chose him last year to be HUD Secretary for a reason: to prepare him for future leadership in the party, perhaps even for VP spot. Besides, as I've said before, this is the election of outsider. Donald Trump, Carly Fiorina, and Ben Carson have absolutely no political experience and yet all are dominating the Republican field. Then you have Larry Lessig making a run (albeit with almost no support before he dropped out) and "outsiders" Martin O'Malley and Bernie Sanders. Hillary could easily say that Castro would learn with a hands-on approach and has enough experience so far. She wants to groom him to be president. Furthermore, Obama is still very popular among Democrats. He had little experience and yet he won in 2008 and won re-election in 2012. Why not Castro? As for the swing states that aren't really Hispanic-oriented, I see your point. But he's also really young, which can energize Millennials, and speaks very well. I would say his age is an even bigger asset than his race, especially since Hillary is old.

In regard to an earlier comment about 2008 being "as sexist as the '80s", obviously that's not the case. Hillary lost because Obama was more charismatic and people wanted someone without baggage and of a minority background.
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Old 11-05-2015, 11:31 PM
 
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What about that Hispanic guy from New Mexico -- Richardson? The guy who ran for something (maybe president) before. Is he too old?

Or how about Eric Garcetti, the major of Los Angeles? He's only 44.
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Old 11-05-2015, 11:45 PM
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What about that Hispanic guy from New Mexico -- Richardson? The guy who ran for something (maybe president) before. Is he too old?

Or how about Eric Garcetti, the major of Los Angeles? He's only 44.
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Bill Richardson was a U.S. Congressmen, Ambassador to the U.N.,Secretary of Energy, 2 term Governor of New Mexico.

And yes, he ran for President.

I doubt she picks him or any Hispanic for that matter.
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Old 11-06-2015, 12:00 AM
 
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Typical the (D's) are likely picking a Hispanic hoping that gender and ethnic politics will win the day. Divide and try to conquer seems to be their new mantra.

Alinsky must be very proud of his female disciple.
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Old 11-06-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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Typical the (D's) are likely picking a Hispanic hoping that gender and ethnic politics will win the day. Divide and try to conquer seems to be their new mantra.

Alinsky must be very proud of his female disciple.
Where do you think they learned this strategy? Beginning in the early 1960s, the Republican strategy was getting overwhelming white support, and it usually worked. White voters, particularly older white voters still, are still overwhelmingly Republican.

But in 2008 and 2012, team Obama was smart enough to recognize the demographics no longer favored Republicans. Consequently, they focused on getting minority and younger voters, and it worked.

Hilary has many of the same strategists Obama had. They understand if Hilary can get overwhelming support from younger and especially Hispanic voters, she's likely to win even if the Republican candidate gets overwhelming white support as Romney did in 2012.

So how can you blame the Dems for doing what's mostly likely to work? That's politics.
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