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Old 11-05-2015, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Let me sort through those:

1. Virginia is not a solidly blue state. Mark Warner, a popular Virginia Senator, was nearly voted out of office by an unknown Ed Gillespie in a race that was not heavily funded by the RNC. The race came within a few percentage points of Gillespie winning, yet it was expected that Warner would win by a huge margin. Secondly, the voters of Virginia rebuked their governor's call for gun control two days ago by keeping the state senate Republican. Hillary, as you probably know, is big on gun control. How will that play out in Virginia?

2. Nevada has a very popular Hispanic Republican Governor by the name of Brian Sandoval. Governors can make or break a state flipping to one side or another. He's Hispanic, Republican, and very popular with Nevadans. You o the math.

3. Are those 400,000 Puerto Ricans registered voters in Florida? Not only that, but the retiree population in Florida is always growing. That's a big win for Republicans.

4. The rest of what you posted was nonsense.
Virginia was solid red just a view years ago. Now, it is either purple or blue, as educated liberals move to its DC suburbs.
Seniors aren't solid in the Republican column. Many migrate from the North East where they were Democrats. Seniors care a great deal about Social Security and Medicare, two programs the GOP is constantly attacking and calling recipients moochers.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:01 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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A) The first reports of the Benghazi event were inaccurate as is the case with most first reports in the field. Moreover, the public thinks this is beating a dead horse.

B) Politifact, who reviewed the claim: "The birther movement was started by Hillary Clinton in 2008. She was all in!" — Donald Trump on Tuesday, September 22nd, 2015 in a tweet
ruled that the claim is

That's the same as other fact-checking organization.
Emails were just released where Hillary was telling her family that the attacks were terrorist based and had nothing to do with a YouTube video, that of course didn't stop her and the Obama administration from spending months telling people it was a YouTube video to help obama's reelection.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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After watching elections over the last 50 years, I have learned one thing. The only sure thing is that there is no such thing as a sure thing in elections.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:17 PM
 
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After watching elections over the last 50 years, I have learned one thing. The only sure thing is that there is no such thing as a sure thing in elections.
Exactly. This has been the most unpredictable election cycle in my lifetime. Did anyone think Trump would be a frontrunner, a socialist would present a formidable challenge to the party's longtime frontrunner, Walker would be the second to drop out of the race, etc.? The whole email scandal adds a bit more unpredictability to an already unpredictable election cycle.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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1. Here's an outdated "Does she care" data set, but it's older:

In Colorado, voters say “57 – 39 percent that she does not care about their needs and problems.”

In Iowa, “she does not care about their needs and problems, voters say 55 – 39 percent.”

And in Virginia, “she does not care about their needs and problems, voters say 50 – 45 percent.”


https://www.americarisingpac.org/q-p...ters-problems/

Please mind the link, it's has the actual Quinnipiac poll attached.
far enough.
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2. Of course he was, but were his likability and trust numbers as low as Clinton's are?
yes, they were the same, I already said that. In fact they were worst. At least likability was.

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3. I specifically called it the socialist-wing. Socialism has been around a heck of a lot longer than Bernie has.
Actually, you called it the Sanders wing in the original post I responded to, you only later after realizing your mistake called it the socialist wing.



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and the Sanders-wing of the party would most likely rather stay home than vote for a corporatism like Hillary.

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If we're to believe current polling, but that metric, Republicans are already at an advantage with the Independent vote. Is that a fair statement?
An advantage is not what we were debating though. You were claim that advantage would lead to a win, it does not.

Independents only make up 29% of the last election. Democrats make up 38%, theoretically, a Democrat could get trounced in the independent vote and still be elected president.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Emails were just released where Hillary was telling her family that the attacks were terrorist based and had nothing to do with a YouTube video, that of course didn't stop her and the Obama administration from spending months telling people it was a YouTube video to help obama's reelection.
Again, you are talking about this video as if it is a sentient life.

Saying that a terrorist organization is responsible for the recruitment of the individuals is not the same as saying the video was not one of the tools they used to recruit those people.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:46 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Again, you are talking about this video as if it is a sentient life.

Saying that a terrorist organization is responsible for the recruitment of the individuals is not the same as saying the video was not one of the tools they used to recruit those people.
Does your back hurt from all that water you are carrying for Hillary?


The amount of blind faith you have for someone that lies to you scares me.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Exactly. This has been the most unpredictable election cycle in my lifetime. Did anyone think Trump would be a frontrunner, a socialist would present a formidable challenge to the party's longtime frontrunner, Walker would be the second to drop out of the race, etc.? The whole email scandal adds a bit more unpredictability to an already unpredictable election cycle.
In the GOP? I am not surprised, low informed voters that thrive off fear based campaigning are plentiful in the GOP and are flocking to Trump and Carson.
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Old 11-05-2015, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Does your back hurt from all that water you are carrying for Hillary?


The amount of blind faith you have for someone that lies to you scares me.
What do you mean blind faith and lies, she testified before congress and said the very same thing ?


Your very argument that it is a lie is based on you believing a video is a sentient life form. if not then you are arguing an augmented definition of contributing factors.


is it so hard for you to understand that a terrorist group was responsible for the act and that they used the video to recruit the individuals who carried out the attack ?
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Old 11-06-2015, 04:05 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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What do you mean blind faith and lies, she testified before congress and said the very same thing ?


Your very argument that it is a lie is based on you believing a video is a sentient life form. if not then you are arguing an augmented definition of contributing factors.


is it so hard for you to understand that a terrorist group was responsible for the act and that they used the video to recruit the individuals who carried out the attack ?
Except that didn't happen. No one even knew the video existed until after the attack. The video was a complete ruse to divert attention away from Obama and his re election where he was telling Americans that he had kept us safe for the last 4 years and prevented attacks. Remember binladen is dead and gm is alive nonsense he was spouting over and over on the campaign trail, couldn't let anything derail that fine slogan. So Hillary and others from his administration went out to tell America that the protest on 9/11 was because of some video on YouTube that was seen like 90 times up to that point was the sole cause and terrorists were not involved.
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