Prove Bernie Sanders doesn't want government to run my life
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Despite all obvious proof, fans of capitalism cant see corporations will always do the wrong thing. They will argue ad nauseam that omnipotent market will come to the rescue. In the end, we(consumers) lose.
I am pretty anti-capitalist, so that's a strawman. I am for markets and against corporate rule, which is the result of cronyism. And Bernie will make America the best place for corporations. How? His regulations will make it harder for smaller competition to rise and empower corporations, like most regulations do.
And "the market" is also the trade of favors and associations, not just goods and currencies. Voluntary, non-profit associations are also markets. Any human interaction not based on force (i.e., government) is a market, from the dating market to the coffee market to the charity market. You do not understand Libertarianism...but than again, I have never met a critic of Libertarianism who did and doubt such a creature exist.
I am pretty anti-capitalist, so that's a strawman. I am for markets and against corporate rule, which is the result of cronyism. And Bernie will make America the best place for corporations. How? His regulations will make it harder for smaller competition to rise and empower corporations, like most regulations do.
And "the market" is also the trade of favors and associations, not just goods and currencies. Voluntary, non-profit associations are also markets. Any human interaction not based on force (i.e., government) is a market, from the dating market to the coffee market to the charity market. You do not understand Libertarianism...but than again, I have never met a critic of Libertarianism who did and doubt such a creature exist.
I still haven't see how anybody can guarantee the elimination of force as a factor which is arguably the greatest flaw in the libertarian model.
Not sure what exactly this means, maybe you can share an example?
I searched and it's commonly referred to as the "non aggression principle".
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QUESTION: What is the libertarian “non-aggression principle” (or “non-aggression axiom”)? MY SHORT ANSWER: Libertarianism is based on a single ideal, the non-aggression principle, so libertarian rhetoric tends to be remarkably consistent.
Libertarians oppose the initiation of force to achieve social or political goals. They reject “first-strike” force, fraud or theft against others; they only use force in self-defense. Those who violate this “non-aggression principle” are expected to make their victims whole as much as possible.
This “Good Neighbor Policy” is what most of us were taught as children. We were told not to lie, cheat, steal, not to strike our playmates unless they hit us first. If we broke a friend’s toy, we were expected to replace it.
Most of us still practice what we learned as children with other individuals, but we have grown accustomed to letting government aggress against others when we think we benefit. Consequently, our world is full of poverty and strife, instead of the harmony and abundance that freedom (i.e., freedom from aggression) brings.
Simply put, libertarians take the non-aggression principle that most people implicitly follow in their interactions with other individuals, and apply it to group actions, including government actions, as well.
You might have heard the Libertarian Party (LP) referred to as the “Party of Principle.” This is because the LP bases its programs and policy positions on the non-aggression principle.
I still haven't see how anybody can guarantee the elimination of force as a factor which is arguably the greatest flaw in the libertarian model.
The elimination of force is the goal, but a libertarian is someone who wants to build a non-violent society gradually. This is different from most market-anarchists who want to do it overnight, which Somalia will tell you is not a good idea.
By slowly removing force from the equation and handing more and more systems over to the people to run as voluntary associations (like turning Social Security into a non-profit retirement co-op, moving from centralized education to de-centralized, locally controlled models etc) we can move slowly towards zero government.
After a few generations public works could be funded through crowd sourcing, police could be replaced with local militias etc. But for now, limiting government as much as possible is the only rational goal.
And all of this is in start contrast to Bernie Sanders, who wants to increase state power and give more, not less, control over our lives to Big Brother.
Your taxes are actually *cheaper* under him because the TAXES INCLUDE HEALTH INSURANCE!
He is not "coming for your guns."
He will decrease debt and deficit by not getting into so many wars.
Bonus: less of your young male relatives will be dead.
You will have a better chance for a more reasonable and comfortable retirement as he won't F w your SS that you have already paid into.
Setting up a state's model of saving gov funds by rehab instead of locking up nonviolent offenders.
Pro-choice means that less of your taxes go to welfare.
College education means less of your taxes go to welfare.
Seriously, I can't think of much else I could want from the guy unless it is based in my own selfishness.
ie, do I personally want capital gains tax rates to rise? No but they still should and i can admit that. It makes zero sense that cash that I made by sitting on my arse is in the lowest tax bracket v "earned income." Anyone who thinks different and yet is opposed to welfare is a HYPOCRITE (yes, I did scream that!) No one who has money to invest is going to completely stop "playing the market" if taxed more because it is still the best option for investing over a long period of time.
Don't worry folks, the wealth will continue to "trickle up" as always. Sanders or no Sanders.
Your taxes are actually *cheaper* under him because the TAXES INCLUDE HEALTH INSURANCE! Wrong, I've done the math and as a percentage, my insurance cost goes up significantly, and likely all for worse coverage.
He is not "coming for your guns."
He will decrease debt and deficit by not getting into so many wars. This is hardly up to him, there are so many factors out of his control, all it takes is one terrorist attack and we are going to war regardless of who is in office. Relying on this to decrease debt and deficit is like relying on never getting in a car accident to save money
Bonus: less of your young male relatives will be dead. Same as above, hardly up to him, and maybe more likely actually if other nations see him/us as pushovers
You will have a better chance for a more reasonable and comfortable retirement as he won't F w your SS that you have already paid into. SS was not designed as a retirement plan, period. Your retirement plan is on you, people need to save more of their own money. SS is an additional buffer that if you plan well you shouldn't need to rely on, it should add extra safety to what you have already saved.
Setting up a state's model of saving gov funds by rehab instead of locking up nonviolent offenders.
Pro-choice means that less of your taxes go to welfare.
College education means less of your taxes go to welfare. This is just a generalization. But lets say its true, more of my taxes are going to pay for education and for people that should be exploring other options like trade school or going straight to work. Encouraging everyone to spend time and money on college is NOT efficient or practical.
Seriously, I can't think of much else I could want from the guy unless it is based in my own selfishness.
ie, do I personally want capital gains tax rates to rise? No but they still should and i can admit that. It makes zero sense that cash that I made by sitting on my arse is in the lowest tax bracket v "earned income." Anyone who thinks different and yet is opposed to welfare is a HYPOCRITE (yes, I did scream that!) No one who has money to invest is going to completely stop "playing the market" if taxed more because it is still the best option for investing over a long period of time. No, because raising taxes from 15% TO 28% or more significantly changes the risk/reward profile for many investments, so I'm sure lots of people would shift lots of money out of regular stocks, or trade less overall. And yes, money that you have EARNED and already been taxed on once, should have a lower tax on it because although you make it sound lazy by "sitting on your arse" its a significant risk to put money to work in the market and you should have greater rewards for doing so. The work you do doesn't come with nearly the same risk, so its a very good reason to be taxed differently.
Don't worry folks, the wealth will continue to "trickle up" as always. Sanders or no Sanders.The only place Bernie wants taxes to trickle is to government, all he is going to do is vastly increase the size of the nations most financially irresponsible and inefficient organization, also known as the US Government.
Craziness....although I see some irony in your user name...let me know when you find Utopia, it certainly won't be built on the platform laid out by Mr. Sanders.
Everyone calls Trump every name in the book...and frankly he deserves to be called most of them. But, NO ONE is calling out the Stalinism of Bernie Sanders. The media loves that old chump. Take a look at the ratio of bad to good mentions of Bernie vs any other candidate: he isn't mentioned much but when he is, it is almost always good. Which is absurd because his is even more corrupt and useless than the average politician. Anyway, I will ask his cultists here if they can answer me this simple question: will there be an option to NOT have his government run my life?
For example, he wants socialized healthcare. This will mean my taxes go up to pay for my healthcare. I am not a wealthy man but not poor, but I am healthy. Will there be an option to say "you know what? Let me keep my money and I will sign a waiver that if I get sick, just bill me and I will go into debt. I would rather take my chances"? No. He does not allow for an opt-out. So even more of my money is taken out of my check every week to pay for something I don't want and way...because it's good for me.
Last time I checked that kind of paternalism was called a "nanny state."
And how about the so called "free college"? I went to college already and I am paying of my bills, which amount to about $20,000 or so. Unlike Bernie supporters I am an adult and I can pay my own bills and take responsibility for myself. So Bernie comes along and takes money from me FOR MY ENTIRE LIFE instead of letting me pay off my bills and letting someone else pay off theirs. And why? Because I signed a "social contract" to pay for other people's education, healthcare, nanny services, etc.
Where oh where is this piece of paper I signed? I NEVER agreed to pay that much for someone else's college. I went and I paid for it, so why can't other people do the same? And yes, getting voters to gang up on me to get government thugs to tax me against my will and use the money for something that is of no benefit to me is indeed theft. Lysander Spooner, a man who was much, MUCH smarter then Bernie, said it best:
And he also wants "free" paternal leave for everyone. Well, I don't want kids, ever. So I guess I have to work longer hours, which will pay me very little after I get taxed, all so someone else can have a litter?
Basically, Bernie Sanders wants me to be a serf to the state, which is the very essence of Stalinism.
So I have to be taxed to death, my money taken to fund things I don't want or need, life decisions are to be made for me by anyone. Bernie telling me I have to surrender my money to the government so I can get healthcare I don't want is no better than Huckabee saying I have to surrender my body to the state and only do with it what is "Biblical moral."
Why not just let people come together and take care of one another if they say choose? Want low-cost healthcare? Establish a non-profit healthcare co-op. Want low-cost college? Get together and start a fund, or work to charter a new, low cost college in your community. Want to have a child? Save your own money and have one. Want higher pay? Form a union and demand better pay.
In other words: do it yourselves, instead of getting an elected official to empower the state to do it. When the State get more powerful, people lose, as history has shown us.
When the government gets involved, things get very bad, very quickly. Especially for people like me who would be put in the Gulag for "thought crime" in a Bernie Sanders America.
I can't prove that Bernie Sanders doesn't want to run your life (or mine) because he does.
Listen to his supporters. "Lindsay" is Bernie's 2016 model of Obama's 2008 "Obamaphone Lady." You (and the rest of us--except Lindsay) are going to pay off Lindsay's $226K college tuition loan, and Lindsay is all smiles and giggles.
Sanders (and his wife) have an affinity for Communist countries. Oh, they don't stay there, though--that oppression is what they want for us. Forget the fact that it doesn't work (except for those at the top--until the money runs out when takers far outnumber producers) wherever it's been tried.
Bernie Claus is apparently the only candidate to be able to get young people (par...ty!) off their duffs and into the voting booths.
We're doomed.
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