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Old 12-17-2015, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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The media and pundits keep pushing this idea that Kasich, Jeb!, Marco, etc. are moderates who want to push the party to the center with less hawkish stances.


Why don't they mention then that this establishment group are the people who want to reinvade the middle east, start WWIII with Russia, and topple dictators to further destabilize the region for their Military industrial complex while the anti-establishment actual wants to defeat ISIS and end this non-sense.


Why does CNN, NBC, the Huffington post, the Washington post, The New York Times, CBS, ABC, and all the rest constantly LIE about this...
It's cruel and frustrating
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Old 12-17-2015, 08:12 PM
 
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" Trump/Cruz/Carson vs. the establishment"

Don't kid yourself. Cruz is the establishment, the social conservative establishment. The same old white haired dudes, that have been around for eons, will chime in shortly. Of those three, Trump and Carson are the only ones without any traditional backing.
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Old 12-17-2015, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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" Trump/Cruz/Carson vs. the establishment"

Don't kid yourself. Cruz is the establishment, the social conservative establishment. The same old white haired dudes, that have been around for eons, will chime in shortly. Of those three, Trump and Carson are the only ones without any traditional backing.
Trump? Not part of the establishment?

His wedding guests include Rudy Giuliani, Barbara Walters, Matt Lauer, Katie Couric, and Bill & Hillary Clinton - but he's totally not part of the establishment!



Donald Trump, partying it up with his totally non-establishment pals!

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Old 12-17-2015, 08:35 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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" Trump/Cruz/Carson vs. the establishment"

Don't kid yourself. Cruz is the establishment, the social conservative establishment. The same old white haired dudes, that have been around for eons, will chime in shortly. Of those three, Trump and Carson are the only ones without any traditional backing.

Ask David Dewhurst, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Jeb Bush, if Ted is in their camp!!

LOL

Don't kid yourself! Pal.
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Old 12-17-2015, 08:43 PM
 
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[quote=Unsettomati;42321546]Trump? Not part of the establishment?

His wedding guests include Rudy Giuliani, Barbara Walters, Matt Lauer, Katie Couric, and Bill & Hillary Clinton - but he's totally not part of the establishment!



Donald Trump, partying it up with his totally non-establishment pals!

[/QUOTPeople change... Trump for the better and Hilliary for the worse!
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Old 12-17-2015, 08:51 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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The media and pundits keep pushing this idea that Kasich, Jeb!, Marco, etc. are moderates who want to push the party to the center with less hawkish stances.


Why don't they mention then that this establishment group are the people who want to reinvade the middle east, start WWIII with Russia, and topple dictators to further destabilize the region for their Military industrial complex while the anti-establishment actual wants to defeat ISIS and end this non-sense.


Why does CNN, NBC, the Huffington post, the Washington post, The New York Times, CBS, ABC, and all the rest constantly LIE about this...
It's cruel and frustrating
Exactly. If you want another big Middle East war, vote for Jeb! and he will deliver. That's the reason he is running. It is frustrating that the public is led to believe that Jeb! is some kind of moderate or reasonable choice.
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Old 12-17-2015, 09:34 PM
 
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How exactly is Rubio a part of the "establishment"? For being part of the establishment, FreedomWorks sure gives him a pretty high score:

Scorecards | Congressional Scorecard - FreedomWorks
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Old 12-17-2015, 09:37 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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How exactly is Rubio a part of the "establishment"? For being part of the establishment, FreedomWorks sure gives him a pretty high score:

Scorecards | Congressional Scorecard - FreedomWorks

He is Jeb Bushs protege... He learned from the best.
He pulled his mask off way too soon, once in the Senate. To reveal the same evil that has possessed the government, for the last 100 years.
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Old 12-17-2015, 09:42 PM
 
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He is Jeb Bushs protege... He learned from the best.
He pulled his mask off way too soon, once in the Senate. To reveal the same evil that has possessed the government, for the last 100 years.
You mean the same Jeb Bush that he effectively slapped down and caused his poll numbers to plummet?
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Old 12-17-2015, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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You mean the same Jeb Bush that he effectively slapped down and caused his poll numbers to plummet?
they're policies are one to one, that is why the same sort of people support both of them
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