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Not wrong at all. (you should try to respond to what was actually posted)
And as far as those polls go, in Dec 2007 they were saying Hillary 45 and Obama 27. LOL.
Trump hasn't even started to campaign against Hillary. Yet in the last few months she has dropped from a huge lead over Trump to just a few points away. The momentum is against Hillary.
But no matter this is about Cruz. You have not demonstrated that he will win more than Iowa, if that.
I'm doubtful the Cruz will win anything beyond Iowa. But if, by some chance, the GOP nominates him, they are in for a historic loss.
The vast majority of the electorate won't vote for a religious fundamentalist.
Here's a first. The first time we've agreed on anything. I can't picture Cruz flipping Blue or even Purple states. He'll do well in Bible Belt states that the Pubs will win anyway, but he's unlikely to move the ball elsewhere. Ted's probably the easiest candidate to beat of the current front runners. Unless he's correct with that theory that there's legions of non-voting conservatives waiting for his clarion call, I think he's way too far to the right to prevail in a general election. I can't see him having much of a shot in states like Ohio or Pennsylvania. I'm obviously doubtful that Trump would either, but I would guess that he would have more cross over appeal to blue collars in contestable states than Teddy would. Any voter that Cruz gets could probably be had by another candidate that's more electable.
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Yuck. I hate Cruz less than the rest of the republicans but Trump is the only person I will vote for. Cruz is just not for me.
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Iowa doesn't exactly have a great track record recently.
2008 they went Huckabee. 2012 they went (barely) Santorum. It's a state where nuts who cannot possibly compete nationally do well. They do well in Iowa because the caucus system favors candidates who have a highly committed voter base; that means extremists can actually win there, since pretty much by definition their supporters are more committed than someone who supports a moderate, viable candidate.
Cruz does nothing for me. And how did he become the favorite of evangelicals? What’s his religious creed anyway? Apparently Iowans ARE stupid. I can recite couple of bible verses on the stage. He is as lawyerly as Hillary. Remember last time instead of saying yes or no he says I don’t “intend” to legalize illegals or something like that. I still go with the size of the crowd and say Trump wins Iowa. I said that on 12/20/15.
Cruz does nothing for me. And how did he become the favorite of evangelicals? What’s his religious creed anyway? Apparently Iowans ARE stupid. I can recite couple of bible verses on the stage. He is as lawyerly as Hillary. Remember last time instead of saying yes or no he says I don’t “intend” to legalize illegals or something like that. I still go with the size of the crowd and say Trump wins Iowa. I said that on 12/20/15.
You're going to criticize the man for being articulate and intelligent?
Both Trump and Cruz have a pathway (albeit small IMO) to beat Hillary, but they both have the potential to invoke the biggest defeat on the party since Barry Goldwater in 1964, which is very possible. The effect on that on the down ticket when the playing field is against Republicans in 2016 could be catastrophic. We could be looking at the dems taking back the house and possibly getting close to a filibuster proof majority in the senate. Obamacare stays, Climate change laws stay, Iran deal stays etc.
The Republican electorate have got to be very careful about who they choose here. I've never been one to say its impossible for either Trump/Cruz to win given the angry mood of the country now, anything could happen. But there's very little chance, despite how fake and uninspiring they may be, that the likes of Rubio, Christie, Kasich or other moderate candidates would invoke such a landslide defeat.
Trump and Cruz are a huge risk, it could work well or it could work out horribly.
If the Republicans cannot beat Hillary Clinton, who can they beat?
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