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Old 04-02-2016, 09:00 AM
 
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Why I think Hillary will ultimately prevail over Sanders:

Comparing national poll average in 2008 to 2016 two months after the race started in Iowa:

March 3rd 2008 (2 months after Iowa caucus on Jan 3rd) : Obama +6.2%
RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Democratic Presidential Nomination

April 1st 2016 (2 months after Iowa caucus on Feb 1st) : Clinton +8.6%

Sanders actually closed in on Hillary in late February after his huge win in New Hampshire, but he was unable to pull closer nationally.

 
Old 04-02-2016, 09:06 AM
 
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New Poll :

Oregon (KATU-TV/SurveyUSA) : Clinton +1
 
Old 04-02-2016, 11:05 AM
 
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New poll

Wisconsin (Loras College) : Clinton +6
 
Old 04-02-2016, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Wisconsin may be a nail biter! I like the east coast states because the polls close there early enough my time (mountain) that I can get the results and still get to bed at a decent hour. I may have to plan for a late night on Tuesday! lol!
 
Old 04-02-2016, 01:20 PM
 
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Wisconsin may be a nail biter! I like the east coast states because the polls close there early enough my time (mountain) that I can get the results and still get to bed at a decent hour. I may have to plan for a late night on Tuesday! lol!
I agree, nothing like watching east coast elections on Pacific time. They are usually settled by the time I make dinner.
 
Old 04-02-2016, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Bernie is getting petty, dirty, and away from the issues. He's beginning to sound like a Republican that way. I liked him when he was talking about what he stood for rather than yammering on about Clinton's PACs that she has no control and distorting the nature of contributions to her campaign. I hope he loses now.
 
Old 04-02-2016, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Bernie is getting petty, dirty, and away from the issues. He's beginning to sound like a Republican that way. I liked him when he was talking about what he stood for rather than yammering on about Clinton's PACs that she has no control and distorting the nature of contributions to her campaign. I hope he loses now.
Yes, Bernie has long since past the point where he was running FOR something. Now he's just running AGAINST Clinton.
 
Old 04-02-2016, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Haha, is Hillary and her campaign still feigning offense? There seems to be this notion from Clinton advocates that Sanders is supposed to sit quietly in the corner and highlight Hillary's strengths. She needs to man up.
 
Old 04-02-2016, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Haha, is Hillary and her campaign still feigning offense? There seems to be this notion from Clinton advocates that Sanders is supposed to sit quietly in the corner and highlight Hillary's strengths. She needs to man up.
Funny, isn't it, how the Clintonistas have completely different standards for their candidate and for everyone else.
She wasn't supposed to have any opposition.
She wasn't supposed to have to defend any of her positions.
It was supposed to be a cakewalk with everyone just bending over to kiss Madam Secretary's feet.

If she remains so ideal and so electable, it shouldn't matter in the least what any other candidate says about her.
But this continued focus on how "mean" Sen. Sanders is being makes me think that some bodies aren't convinced that she's got the backbone to withstand election season without kid glove handling, let alone the presidency.
Do people think, if elected, it will get easier for her?

It won't.
 
Old 04-03-2016, 08:31 AM
 
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Funny, isn't it, how the Clintonistas have completely different standards for their candidate and for everyone else.
She wasn't supposed to have any opposition.
She wasn't supposed to have to defend any of her positions.
It was supposed to be a cakewalk with everyone just bending over to kiss Madam Secretary's feet.

If she remains so ideal and so electable, it shouldn't matter in the least what any other candidate says about her.
But this continued focus on how "mean" Sen. Sanders is being makes me think that some bodies aren't convinced that she's got the backbone to withstand election season without kid glove handling, let alone the presidency.
Do people think, if elected, it will get easier for her?

It won't.
Or..., may be the more established candidates we are more familiar with from both parties are having their established worlds rocked a bit by some real poking at that establishment from Sanders and Trump. Otherwise, Hillary and those other GOP candidates WOULD be more likely to enjoy that "cakewalk."

It is no exception for candidates to "fight back" with some zest, or they are blamed for lack of zest, but no doubt women have a tougher time walking that tight rope. If they respond with anger, they're a bit*ch. When Trump does the same, he's fighting against the establishment, for us (even if he is about as presidential as a barnyard dog). Hillary's hair out of place, look at that! Trump's hair, even that mess doesn't matter.

In any case, seems the voters are wanting change, real change beyond the sort Obama had in mind.

Change of guard is what people want, a real house cleaning.

You might even say a new government...
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