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Bernie's ideas of taxing WS transaction will absolutely kill the middle class further. The middle class has their 401k's and pensions in the stock market, those transactions will be taxed. BTW, unions will never come back in a global economy, they ask for too much and it can't be done in such a crappy part time work economy.
Don't be so sure of that. Unions are growing overseas which will serve to level the playing field here as they drive up wages and working conditions aboard. Unions here have given up more benefits than they've gotten in collective bargaining here in recent years.
The working class has been decimated over the last 40 years, carefully designed by the corporate elites who dont care at all about America and the well being of its citizens. I feel Bernie Sanders is the best candidate for the working class as he will fight to reign in the power of big money in politics, will break up the biggest banks, boost minimum wage, strengthen unions and fight for healthcare for all, but regardless of who people vote for it is important to respect people's decision and the very real grievances the working class is feeling.
The problem with Sanders is he ALSO wants to give things to people who LITERALLY will not do anything to earn it. He is also socially extremely liberal. Most blue collar places are not. Its why Trump is hitting that nerve.Now it would be interesting to see if Trump and Sanders end up the nominees.
Our local news here in MI gave the rally a lot of coverage. The hour he spoke was broken up 15 times by protesters inside and lots of protesters lined up outside. The venue only holds 7,000 and the crowd was actually 6,500 not the 8,000 by Trump math. I think you're wrong about his 35% tariff on all imported cars coming into the USA being a winning idea. That's not going to get new factories built here. It's just going to drive up the cost of cars for everyone.
He called one protester "weak" for not fighting back when security ejected him.
I'm not sure what the tariff would need to be but it used to work. It levels the playing field for US companies. Really, 7,000 or 8,000? I am not sure with numbers that high that is matters one way or the other. And, we all know who is financing the protesters and who cares about them anyway? While the cost of foreign made products are cheaper since we removed tariffs, we have people out of jobs and much of the stuff coming in is trash so in reality, we are not getting ahead. We can pay it in wages or welfare. I think the country will be better off paying it in wages.
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I'm no expert, but he has to thread a needle on the electoral map, but he has a plan and I can see it working. I think this message resonates in states like Ohio, which are key.
Jobs. That's the plan! We want people off welfare and the answer for most is? Jobs. We want college educated people to pay back their student loans but they can't do it working at fast food? Jobs that pay enough to live on.
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I don't remember too many working class folks winning The Apprentice.
Shut the TV off. "Reality" tv is not the "reality". If people would spend as much time reviewing the issues, the candidates, etc. as they do on "reality" tv, our country would be in a much better place.
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It's blacks that Obama and his corporate cronies screwed the hardest with the open borders garbage but most blacks aren't smart enough to see it.
To be sure there are a few that see it but most are unable to.1
There is a major effort being made to educate the black community about what is going on. I think it will have an impact against the lies of the Democratic Party.
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The Democrats have been on the side of the blue collar working class person for a long time. Trump sounds like a Democrat.
Where did you come up with that? Being on our side would be shutting down illegal immigration and putting tariffs on incoming goods. Do you have a link where a Democrat has done or is promising to do that?
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You can say that again.
And there are a significant number of Hispanics either born here or who came here legally, and their families, who expect everyone to take the legal route.
Do you ever wonder if the true problem is the one that believes that ALL Hispanics/Latinos/etc. support illegal immigration just because they are Hispanic/Latino/etc.? I mean that has to be insulting. I would not want people to say that because I am woman, that is why I would support Hillary or that because I am "white", I wouldn't support Carson, because I am anything in particular, I would be limited to supporting anyone like myself despite their activities illegal and otherwise.
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Trump spent a lot of time at the rally running Clinton down for taking longer than the guys to come back from the bathroom break at the Democratic debate. Said she didn't have the physical stamina to be president. I laughed hard at that. She's the one who enduring an 11 1/2 testimony in front of congress in the same week he was complaining about how long he and his fellow republicans had to debate in front of the American people. What he was really saying in typical dog whistle fashion is that a woman shouldn't be president.
That isn't what I am hearing. Let's keep in mind that Hillary had to endure the testimony because she had no choice because of her negligence and pathological lying. She hardly deserves a reward for that.
And, with this, Trump is correct since a person should be paid on their merit, if they are as good as everyone else they should get the same pay. I saw a woman enter the Air Force and become an aviation mechanic, a field that had just opened at that time, and she couldn't lift her tool box and had to have a man do it for her. I always had a problem with that and have seen similar circumstances throughout my life. I should not get a job only because I am a woman and I shouldn't be paid the same unless I am able to perform the job the same as anyone else. Those kind of women that feel entitled by their gender are a problem for the rest of the women. I get Trump: Donald Trump's equal pay fix: "Do as good a job" as a man | Fusion
Also, what has been acceptable over the years when it comes to "sexist" has changed a lot and some men have not kept up. "Sexist" doesn't translate to "discriminatory".
If the Democrats had a decent candidate that was a woman, I don't think there would be such an issue. Hillary has so many skeletons.......
I'm really upset that Barack Obama trained the country to accept a lying cynical demagogue in the White House, paving the way for the biggest BS'er of all, Trump.
I'm really upset that Barack Obama trained the country to accept a lying cynical demagogue in the White House, paving the way for the biggest BS'er of all, Trump.
That's pretty much what it boils down to. Obama created such an intolerable condition in the US that a Wacko like Trump winning is actually now a reality
Bernie's ideas of taxing WS transaction will absolutely kill the middle class further. The middle class has their 401k's and pensions in the stock market, those transactions will be taxed. BTW, unions will never come back in a global economy, they ask for too much and it can't be done in such a crappy part time work economy.
Conservatism: Who needs solutions when you can just blame it all on the black guy?
Speaking strictly politics, not whether it's a good or bad idea, if bigger unions broke for Trump it wouldn't cost them a dime in campaign donations.
SEIU, I believe, has already endorsed Clinton.
Do you think a blue collar American citizen Hispanic wants to lose his job to an illegal Hispanic because the latter will work for lower wages?
Hillary Clinton = Low Voter Turnout.
Keep dreaming. If John Kerry can bring 59 million people to vote for him, Hillary will dwarf that number. ESPECIALLY if she's going up against a lightning rod like Trump.
Trump fans list reasons why blacks and legal Hispanics will vote for their guy, forgetting that his favorability with those two groups is on par with a kick to the nuts.
Conservatism: Who needs solutions when you can just blame it all on the black guy?
What black guy? Oh, the race card. Silly me. I just addressed that issue so thanks for verifying it! Yep, it isn't because Obama is a loser but that he is black. Seriously, he hasn't a clue about being black and anyone that looks at his past knows that. He is mixed race, raised by white grandparents and knows nothing of the black culture, well, US black culture anyway. Trust me that when I tell you that his mother came from Kansas that she was "whiter than white". I now live in KS.
Bernie's ideas of taxing WS transaction will absolutely kill the middle class further. The middle class has their 401k's and pensions in the stock market, those transactions will be taxed.
A lot of people aren't smart enough to realize that.
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While the cost of foreign made products are cheaper since we removed tariffs, we have people out of jobs and much of the stuff coming in is trash so in reality, we are not getting ahead. We can pay it in wages or welfare. I think the country will be better off paying it in wages.
