What If We've Been Looking In The Wrong Place for a Third Party Run? (voters, wages)

[LauraC]

What if the breakaway candidate is a Democrat?

Why the Democratic Party can't beat Bernie Sanders' democratic socialist army

Webb Attacks Clinton With Eye on Independent Run - Bloomberg Politics

[bale002]

Originally Posted by LauraC

What if the breakaway candidate is a Democrat?

Why the Democratic Party can't beat Bernie Sanders' democratic socialist army

Webb Attacks Clinton With Eye on Independent Run - Bloomberg Politics

I would love to see a four-way (actually three-way) election among very serious contenders:

1) Trump independent
2) Sanders independent
3a) democrat establishment
3b) republican establishment

I don't think Webb generates enough popular interest to be a serious contender.

Wasn't there a time when the VP was election by virtue of second highest electoral votes?


I think Trump/Sanders, in that order, would make a lot of actual policy sense: profitable businesses paying decent, livable wages, capable of generating real saving, to legal US citizens on US soil.

But apparently people want the opposite because they keep voting the pre-chosen establishment candidates.

Maybe it's time for a real change this time. (But probably not.)

We'll see. (Not holding my breath).

[WaldoKitty]

Originally Posted by bale002

Wasn't there a time when the VP was election by virtue of second highest electoral votes?

As originally stated in the US Constitution that is how it worked. It was however changed to what we have now by the 12th Amendment.

[Dmitri95]

Sanders said he will back Hillary if she wins. He thinks that running an independent campaign would cause his loathed GOP to win, and he is probably right.

Webb can draw voters from either side of the political aisle. He is a true centrist.

[bale002]

Originally Posted by Dmitri95

Sanders said he will back Hillary if she wins. He thinks that running an independent campaign would cause his loathed GOP to win ...

The fact that Sanders has this focus, love or hate, on abstractions like partisanship and ideologies makes him a hack like the rest of them.

He has a cute wish list of policy outcomes, I could compile one too, as a child makes a gift list to be sent to Santa Claus, but it takes a comprehensive set of realistic and actual policies and, more importantly, real balls to achieve even a few outcomes on a long wish list.

Sanders could be a serious contender, but in reality he is a putz with no chutzpah.

Originally Posted by Dmitri95

Webb can draw voters from either side of the political aisle. He is a true centrist.

Yeah, all two of them, one of each maybe.

Politics has facets, one for each human face, not aisles or centers.

Originally Posted by WaldoKitty

As originally stated in the US Constitution that is how it worked. It was however changed to what we have now by the 12th Amendment.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Just talking, but maybe we should go back to that original intent: the Constitution makes no mention of political parties or, worse, ideologies, hence, for example, I would see nothing wrong with Trump and Sanders as president and vice president, a better chance at better representation and better policymaking for citizens on US soil.

As it stands, politics is a business and in this country the market is dominated by a duopoly with common backroom owners with a global scope of operations.