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Old 12-30-2015, 10:30 PM
 
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Trump would be the absolute worst thing ever to happen to America, if he is to be elected. Fortunately, it's unlikely that he will be elected president.

I can't stand him because of his extreme ego, his stance on immigrants and Muslims, and the fact that he's bringing racists out of the woodwork.

He is the biggest buffoon ever and appeals to uneducated working class white men who are anti-intellectual and tend to have gun obsessions.
Trump and his supporters are the biggest reason why I don't vote Republican. As long as Pseudoscience McRacialist is a large force inside the GOP, I'm staying away from that cluster****

 
Old 12-30-2015, 10:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
Just ignore the substance of all my arguments then
Care to defend the substance of your "No PAC money" assertion?
 
Old 12-30-2015, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Earth
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The nativism, the flirtations with the radical right, and the racism.
If Trump dumped the nativism and xenophobia, openly repudiated racists, and mellowed out a little on immigration, I could support him.
 
Old 12-31-2015, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Care to defend the substance of your "No PAC money" assertion?


Excuse me from that one slip up.


I more so meant that his campaign in general doesn't accept money from the major Special Interest groups that have a large affect on our society. in fact he has many small donors even though he doesn't need them.


I mainly talking about money from the military industrial complex
Oil companies
Finance/Banking
Etc.


Those 3 big groups all with lobbyist from APIAC and others completely control politicians in the US which in the long run damages our society. Now please respond to the rest of my arguments if you have any disagreements
 
Old 12-31-2015, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
Don't be a brainwashed fool. the situation is more complex
No, it's not. Trump makes promises that he cannot possibly deliver upon because Congress won't go along with them. So, how does he get them delivered other than using Executive Orders ... short of declaring the US Constitution null and void and himself Grand Poobah?

BTW, I'm still waiting for you to even attempt to answer my reasons for not supporting Trump, which you have not done.
 
Old 12-31-2015, 07:41 AM
 
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Trump is playing the American people. He knows he won't actually win the election, he doesn't actually want to be president. He's exposing the circus that out presidential elections have become and people are absolutely clueless and blindly supporting him. I can see him sitting in his luxurious home just laughing because so many people don't realize that he's not serious.

He's turning our nation into a joke and it's embarrassing.
 
Old 12-31-2015, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Wait a minute. I thought you said you were going to convince us to vote for Trump?
So far you have just convinced us that his supporters are as dumb as Trump.
But we already knew that!
The way I see it you guys are the dumb ones.

1. You are actually proud to be voting for more of the same. Seriously, is there any difference between the candidates today and Mitt Romney, John McCain and 2008 Hillary? I'm not seeing it.

2. You have a problem with Trump insulting fellow Republicans and then turn around and do it yourself by calling us dumb/uneducated/crazies/etc., and calling him a clown. I guess that makes you all hypocrites.

3. Did Donald Trump pe* in your Cheerios? Has he ever put forth a Gang of 8 bill? Added pork to any bills? Pass any bills in secret? Hold any hearings that went nowhere? Raised your taxes? Sent you to war and achieved nothing? Made any deals for America where he gave away the store? Did he back Mitch McConnell's re-election? Vote to send your kid to Syria, Afghanistan or Iraq? Wasted your political donation? Ruin your health insurance? Did he cause your state's credit rating to drop? Run up the National Debt? What exactly has he done to you guys, personally, besides outsmart/outmaneuver the candidates you support? So, what it comes down to is unless you married him, harsh/mean words are more detestable than obfuscating/lying/hypocritical actions that have actually taken place? Is that what you're saying?

4. You are okay with making Trump sign a loyalty pledge that he won't run as third party but have no problem with supporting candidates who have announced they won't vote for him if he's the nominee. So much for loyalty.
 
Old 12-31-2015, 08:29 AM
 
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The way I see it you guys are the dumb ones.

1. You are actually proud to be voting for more of the same. Seriously, is there any difference between the candidates today and Mitt Romney, John McCain and 2008 Hillary? I'm not seeing it.
The only difference between Trump and the above candidates mentioned is that he is more obnoxious.

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3. Did Donald Trump pe* in your Cheerios? Has he ever put forth a Gang of 8 bill? Added pork to any bills? Pass any bills in secret? Hold any hearings that went nowhere? Raised your taxes? Sent you to war and achieved nothing? Made any deals for America where he gave away the store? Did he back Mitch McConnell's re-election? Vote to send your kid to Syria, Afghanistan or Iraq? Wasted your political donation? Ruin your health insurance? Did he cause your state's credit rating to drop? Run up the National Debt? What exactly has he done to you guys, personally, besides outsmart/outmaneuver the candidates you support? So, what it comes down to is unless you married him, harsh/mean words are more detestable than obfuscating/lying/hypocritical actions that have actually taken place? Is that what you're saying?
He's outsmarting YOU. His run for president isn't serious, it's a joke. He's smart enough to know that but he's manipulating you and millions of others. He hasn't outdone anything to any of the candidates I personally support either. All he's done is make it incredibly difficult for any middle of the road Republicans to support their party right now. He's working against the general interest of the party and that's abundantly obvious to anyone who doesn't support him.

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4. You are okay with making Trump sign a loyalty pledge that he won't run as third party but have no problem with supporting candidates who have announced they won't vote for him if he's the nominee. So much for loyalty.
No one could be more disloyal to the Republican party than Trump. He's destroying them.
 
Old 12-31-2015, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Hmmm, because ...

1. He's a bombastic buffoon.
2. His ego is the size of Texas.
3. He's a racist douche.
4. He's a facist.
5. He wants more massive giveaways to the 1%.
6. Did I mention he was a facist?
7. He doesn't understand freedom of religion.
8. He doesn't comprehend immigration, or the positive effect "illegals" have on our economy as shown by multiple studies.
9. No way in hell would I trust him with our military.
10. I'm all for anti-establishment candidates, but he has no experience to say that he is qualified for the office.
11. Talk about an embarrasment in the White House? His classless, reality tv self, and his pseudo-pornographic wife would be a national embarrasment of epic proportions.
12. Did I mention that he's a facist, racist douche?

... I can keep going all day ...
 
Old 12-31-2015, 08:40 AM
 
Location: ATL & LA
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Originally Posted by ToddATX View Post
Hmmm, because ...

1. He's a bombastic buffoon.
2. His ego is the size of Texas.
3. He's a racist douche.
4. He's a facist.
5. He wants more massive giveaways to the 1%.
6. Did I mention he was a facist?
7. He doesn't understand freedom of religion.
8. He doesn't comprehend immigration, or the positive effect "illegals" have on our economy as shown by multiple studies.
9. No way in hell would I trust him with our military.
10. I'm all for anti-establishment candidates, but he has no experience to say that he is qualified for the office.
11. Talk about an embarrasment in the White House? His classless, reality tv self, and his pseudo-pornographic wife would be a national embarrasment of epic proportions.
12. Did I mention that he's a facist, racist douche?

... I can keep going all day ...
Pretty much exactly what'd I'd say.
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