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Old 12-31-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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LauraC and Ponderosa are both right. When are people going to wake up and realize that both party's are the problem. We have been electing people that don't represent what is in the best interest of Americans. mtl1 is correct too, but it is not just the democrat's.

Quote from the Link : This executive action could have been prevented, however, had the bipartisan 2016 omnibus funding included language proposed by Immigration Subcommittee Chairman Sen. Jeff Sessions.
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In April, Sessions proposed language to reduce and cap the number of work-permits — dubbed “Employment Authorization Documents” — that could be distributed to foreign workers each year. Sessions’ recommendation was rejected by GOP and Democratic leaders in Congress, and so House Speaker Rep. Paul Ryan’s December omnibus is enabling the president’s new executive action.

mtl1 Quote : "Hillary too, an open borders, free trade wall street owned globalist."

Both parties have been infiltrated by NWO globalist who want to drag us down to third world status. A strong prosperous independent country doesn't fit in with the One World View of Government. Osama Ben Lauden knew he couldn't defeat us militarily. He wanted to harm us and defeat us economically. That is the Globalist strategy also. If Hillary is elected she will continue on the same destructive path as Obama. I would be a Sanders supporter if I wasn't a Trump supporter. Imagine if you had one world government and they pass a law you could not obey. Where could you go to get away from it and be free of them. The moon, maybe ?
EXACTLY! Well stated. Partisanship is playing a major role in the destruction of this country. Establishment democrats and republicans are not representing this country well and haven't for decades. I would gladly vote for Trump or Sanders over the rest of the establishment candidates; even though they represent quite different ideas for the country.
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Old 12-31-2015, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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These are primarily highly skilled workers that are needed here since there aren't enough U.S. citizens qualified for all the science and technical job opens. The source is breitbart - if Obama ended violence in the middle east, they'd be opposed.
"Trump says that there are plenty of graduates with degrees in science, technology, engineering and math, known as STEM, to fill tech jobs. That means that employers don't need H-1B visas to fill jobs, and are using them instead to keep wages low. Employers are supposed to pay a typical wage to anyone hired under a H-1B visa. But in reality, employees on these visas are typically paid 20 to 45% less than U.S. workers who they are are often replacing, said Ron Hira, a Howard University public policy professor who has studied the visa's pay scale."

Trump said he wants to require employers to pay H-1B workers much more money, which he said would discourage companies from hiring them and boost job prospects for Americans. He also wants to have tech jobs offered to unemployed Americans before they can be filled by workers with H-1B visas.

Donald Trump calls out Mark Zuckerberg on immigration - Aug. 17, 2015

"Microsoft was criticized in Congress for calling for more H-1B visas as it was cutting 7,800 jobs. Southern California Edison and others have taken political heat for laying off American tech workers and replacing them with H-1B workers from outsource information technology providers."

What kind of job market will laid off Qualcomm employees find in San Diego? | SanDiegoUnionTribune.com
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Old 12-31-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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The US Government on the whole cares for just about everyone else in the world and their fattening wallets instead of taking care of "our own sick and injured".

This is why Mr. Trump is resonating with many because he's pro-USA verses Obama who seems to be for all the rest of the world and given any chance speaks negatively about the USA in front of world leaders.
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Old 12-31-2015, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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"Trump says that there are plenty of graduates with degrees in science, technology, engineering and math, known as STEM, to fill tech jobs. That means that employers don't need H-1B visas to fill jobs, and are using them instead to keep wages low. Employers are supposed to pay a typical wage to anyone hired under a H-1B visa. But in reality, employees on these visas are typically paid 20 to 45% less than U.S. workers who they are are often replacing, said Ron Hira, a Howard University public policy professor who has studied the visa's pay scale."

Trump said he wants to require employers to pay H-1B workers much more money, which he said would discourage companies from hiring them and boost job prospects for Americans. He also wants to have tech jobs offered to unemployed Americans before they can be filled by workers with H-1B visas.

Donald Trump calls out Mark Zuckerberg on immigration - Aug. 17, 2015

"Microsoft was criticized in Congress for calling for more H-1B visas as it was cutting 7,800 jobs. Southern California Edison and others have taken political heat for laying off American tech workers and replacing them with H-1B workers from outsource information technology providers."

What kind of job market will laid off Qualcomm employees find in San Diego? | SanDiegoUnionTribune.com
Well, that's rich.

Trump knows that there are all of these Americans willing and able to do these jobs but doesn't apparently know that there are also Americans that would work in his hotels, etc.


Exclusive: Trump

Puleese.

As for the OP, as of right now, it's a proposal, nothing more.

For anyone interested, link to said proposal:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-insp...2015-32666.pdf
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Old 12-31-2015, 02:09 PM
 
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"Trump says that there are plenty of graduates with degrees in science, technology, engineering and math, known as STEM, to fill tech jobs. That means that employers don't need H-1B visas to fill jobs, and are using them instead to keep wages low. Employers are supposed to pay a typical wage to anyone hired under a H-1B visa. But in reality, employees on these visas are typically paid 20 to 45% less than U.S. workers who they are are often replacing, said Ron Hira, a Howard University public policy professor who has studied the visa's pay scale."

Trump said he wants to require employers to pay H-1B workers much more money, which he said would discourage companies from hiring them and boost job prospects for Americans. He also wants to have tech jobs offered to unemployed Americans before they can be filled by workers with H-1B visas.

Donald Trump calls out Mark Zuckerberg on immigration - Aug. 17, 2015
Trump says...Trump says...Trump says...

Meanwhile, as he's dazzling you with everything he says, this is what Trump is actually doing:

"Every year since at least 2008, Mar-A-Lago [Trump's Palm Beach estate] has requested anywhere from 70 to 90 visas to bring foreign workers into the country as cooks, waiters and housekeepers. The starting pay is between $10 and $12 an hour."

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I guess he thinks there are no Americans to fill the jobs as cooks and waiters, huh?

You people are so gullible.
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Old 12-31-2015, 02:15 PM
 
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There is always Sanders. Obama and the Dems are hardly alone in wanting to extend the programs that allow highly skilled foreigners to displace American workers at lower wages. Rubio is a big fan as are most of the Republican candidates. This is one area where the money has been spread on both sides of the aisle.

I am starting to look at Sanders more favorably with each passing day. He has an agenda that is good for middle America and is not a flaming jerk like Trump.
Bernie Sanders is now an open borders guy. Read his policies. He wants to end fossil fuel production, and replace it with wind and solar. He wants to give amnesty to dreamers and their parents. He wants to give "free" college education to illegals. He wants to give "free" healthcare to illegals. And he lies and says we can accomplish all of this by taxing Wall Street investments, which he knows very well is not possible.

I like Sanders, but he's a liar and a panderer just like the rest of them. Besides, he's not enough of a bully to get any of his proposals turned into law. And the real kicker for me is that it's so obvious Sanders does not expect to win, nor does he even really want to win. He's only in this race to move Hillary Clinton to the left.
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Old 12-31-2015, 02:16 PM
 
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Problem is, who's going to oppose it? The GOP is a wholly owned subsidiary of corporate America. So I guess that leaves Trump, but most college grads will gladly tolerate increased immigration if it means keeping Trump out of the White House.
So is the Democratic Party. Don't kid yourself.
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Old 12-31-2015, 02:19 PM
 
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Yes, but the premise of your post is that it would hurt Dems (lose the election). When all but one or two candidates would do the same or worse like the Hatch proposal in the Gang of Eight bill.... There are likely more Dems against H1B expansion than GOP. Working Americans are under assault from the rich and influential. They own more than Obama.
So, which Dems are running for president that are against H1B expansion? Remember, Sanders has basically become an open borders guy and has no real chance of winning. That leaves Hillary, and believe me, she's going to expand it because the tech companies are all in on that one, as is the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
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Old 12-31-2015, 02:30 PM
 
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Then why do they report they are training their replacements?
Because the whole article you are basing this topic on is a very biased Breitbart article and as such is mostly just another attempt to bash the 2X duly elected President of the USA.Your term "They" can be used to say just about anything.
Laura i'll be thinking of your disappointment next November when your GOP crashes and burns yet again..
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Old 12-31-2015, 02:35 PM
 
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Because the whole article you are basing this topic on is a very biased Breitbart article and as such is mostly just another attempt to bash the 2X duly elected President of the USA.Your term "They" can be used to say just about anything.
Laura i'll be thinking of your disappointment next November when your GOP crashes and burns yet again..
Would you believe it if it comes from a more liberal source like the New York Times?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us...ents.html?_r=0
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