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02-05-2008, 02:02 PM
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Why are those votes so bad? We SHOULD have some semblance of sex ed in elementary school. Ask your kids what goes on in the back of school buses, I know my parents were certainly surprised when I came home as a 10 year old questioning the activity the 5th graders were doing at the back of the bus (oral sex). Why the problem with adult shops near schools and churches? Kids will see it anyway from the car, no matter where they go. I can understand not allowing them near schools but see no justification for banning them from near churches. I also do not believe that parents should be notified of abortions... I knew far too many children who made a mistake (or were raped) who were forced to carry the pregnancy due to the parent's beliefs. Not to mention it could be a potentially dangerous situation in some households.
I don't support Obama, but I can't see why a single one of these reasons makes him a poor candidate for president.
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02-05-2008, 03:14 PM
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I'm just watching the wheels go by...
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Originally Posted by Upton
C'mon Gretchen it's Super Tuesday lets give the conspiracy theories a rest. It's not helping your candidate, his pathetic showings demonstrate that. Here, take a look at some polls RP is sitting in single digits for today as well.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2008
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His "Pathetic" showing, if that is what you will call it - are a result of two things:
A corrupt mainstream media that is hideously transparent... and significant swath of brain dead Americans.
Both of whom I despise, immensely. Traitors by choice, traitors by way of sheer ignorance. No matter how you slice and dice it...... it's all sickening.
Talk about "Conspiracy theories" in a few years. When it all falls on us like a ton of bricks, maybe you will figure it out then. But then again, maybe not.
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02-05-2008, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by paperhouse
My boyfriend makes me feel good too, but I don't think he'd be a good president.
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LOL thank you!
And wow obama sure does love porn don't he?
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02-05-2008, 03:33 PM
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He voted against filtering pornography on school and library computers and he voted for sex (broken link) education (broken link) for kindergarten children (broken link) through the 5th grade.
Also, in 2001, he voted “present” on a bill to keep pornographic book (broken link) and video (broken link) stores and strip clubs from setting up within 1,000 feet of schools (broken link) and churches.
I wonder who are his favorite porno stars lol! Just kidding but I find it kind of strange that a father of two young daughters isn't worried that his daughter maybe be exposed to sex to early in life. And no I am not insisting he is a perv because he is not but I think this just shows how incompetent and selfish he just may be. He just doesn't appear to care about anyone but himself and this is why he is not able to win my support because I can see he is selling wolf tickets.
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02-05-2008, 03:43 PM
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Well, who is going to be better to vote for in the general election? Romney or McCain?
I'm looking beyond the primaries...
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02-05-2008, 04:05 PM
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FOX NEWS RULES!
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Originally Posted by Alexus
Yet, among all the potential candidates, here he stands. Endorsed by the Kennedys, John Kerry. I believe this trumps the haters.
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Posting his voting record is not "hating."
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02-05-2008, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BVH
Yep, he sure could beat the Republican's in November with THIS record, huh?
He sponsored S.CON.RES.53: A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that any effort to impose photo (broken link) identification requirements for voting should be rejected.
In 1999 he was the only Illinois (broken link) State Senator to vote against a bill barring early release for (criminal) sex (broken link) offenders.
He voted against filtering pornography on school and library computers and he voted for sex (broken link) education (broken link) for kindergarten children (broken link) through the 5th grade.
Also, in 2001, he voted “present” on a bill to keep pornographic book (broken link) and video (broken link) stores and strip clubs from setting up within 1,000 feet of schools (broken link) and churches.
Just as unsettling is his voting record on abortion.
Twice, Obama voted against bills prohibiting tax funding of abortions.
In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA ( Born Alive Infants Protection Act) was sent, Obama prevented it from even getting a hearing. BAIPA, by the way, stated that all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted.
In 2001, he voted “present” on a bill to notify parents (broken link) when their minor children (broken link) seek an abortion.
He voted against a cloning ban in 2000, but voted for it in 2001.
In 1997, Obama twice voted “present” on an Illinois (broken link) partial-birth abortion (broken link) ban.
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Originally Posted by BVH
--In 2001 he voted against a bill in the Illinois legislature that would have allowed the death penalty to be imposed if a gang member committed murder "in furtherance of the activities of a gang.”
Obama said it would treat black and Latino people unfairly, and that lawmakers were over-reacting to one incident in which gang members murdered a man in Chicago.
“It's problematic for us to continually pass criminal laws based on anecdote. When we have a single situation when a prosecutor doesn't get what he wants, we come down here and pass a law, which is why we have a criminal code rife with contradictions," the Associated Press quoted Obama as saying.
-In 2005, Obama, who was born in Hawaii, supported a bill, the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act which would have allowed Native Hawaiians to set up their own governmental body to open government-to-government negotiations with the United States.
The bill limited eligibility to take part in this new government to the direct lineal descendants of “the aboriginal, indigenous, native people” who lived in Hawaiian Islands prior to 1893.
But critics of the bill, such as Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said it “would create a race-based and racially separate government for Native Hawaiians.”
Nah, he's not a RACIST. He backed a Bill that would allow Hawaii to virtually CECEDE from the Union!
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Obama certainly is a radical and that is why the media loves him. Despite all the claims of radicalism, we know Hillary will have to govern center-left, like Bill did. But Obama is a MORON, call me a racist, I am not saying he should not be president because he is black. I AM saying he shouldn't be president because he is a complete DOLT, he is very dumb, he stands for absolutelly NOTHING, he is a phony like McCain in many ways. THis guy is a creation of the media, much like Lindsey Lohan, who was an un-known low-budget movie actress who the meida MADE famous.
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Originally Posted by paperhouse
My boyfriend makes me feel good too, but I don't think he'd be a good president.
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LOL  Best quote of the day!! This is too funny.
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Originally Posted by jdiddy
So all of your complaints about Obama's "dirty, negative" campaigning, the post yesterday about Obama's Clinton health care flyer, you don't really care about negative campaigning, you're just angry Clinton didn't think of it first.
Any one can pull a Bill O'Reilly distorted hit piece on any candidate. I'd assume you didn't link to the actual bills themselves, and instead offered up a bunch of broken links, because they don't paint any where near the hyperbolic picture you seek to create.
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O'Reilly has given Obama great coverage, probably out of fear that he will be called a racist. The only thing O'Reilly criticizes Obama on is that he answers ZERO questions. The only shows he will go on are shows where the questions are softballs (they are questions designed to make Obama look good). One guy who COULD have asked Obama some real questions (Tim Russert) has been told by his superiors to hit Hillary and ask questions to make Obama look like Jesus Christ as much as he can.
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Originally Posted by BVH
I apologize that the links do not work. They weren't meant to be links, they were cut and pasted and the blue was the link withing the text. Please research them, they are easily found.
To all the detractors, the point here is that if we want to, we can find anything on anybody. He is no more the new "Golden boy" than Hillary is a "golden girl". If there is ANYBODY that still believes that Hillary hasn't been villified by the MSM or the Obama supporters, perhaps it is indeed time for a reality check.
P.S. To the person who gave me a negative rating for using "Hussein": Hussein IS Obama's middle name, it wasn't some "Osama" comment. Look it up:
Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Again, I think most people in this country that do not watch The View and other left-wing pro-Democrat shows would know that Obama is a media creation. He is all hype by the radical crowds. If you think Obama has any substance under his media worship, you are in for a big surprise once you look into his record.
Yes, Obama's middle name is HUSSEIN, like Saddam Hussein. That is his name, no matter what anyone says. Obama is from a Muslim family and he might be a Muslim to this day. He claims to be a church-goer, but we all know it is all politics. Same for Hillary and McCain who say they are Episcopal and Methodist.... PLEASE!! Anyone who is a Christian would know that abortion and gay marriage are against the Bible. These guys just claim to be Christians for politics.
After all, if Obama said he is Muslim, then WHO would vote for him (other than then extreme left)? Look at what happened to Romney for being a Mormon!!
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02-05-2008, 04:38 PM
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That was Zen. This is Tao.
Status:
"Getting used to not getting used to it"
(set 5 days ago)
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Originally Posted by JohnnyRockets
Obama certainly is a radical and that is why the media loves him. Despite all the claims of radicalism, we know Hillary will have to govern center-left, like Bill did. But Obama is a MORON, call me a racist, I am not saying he should not be president because he is black. I AM saying he shouldn't be president because he is a complete DOLT, he is very dumb, he stands for absolutelly NOTHING, he is a phony like McCain in many ways. THis guy is a creation of the media, much like Lindsey Lohan, who was an un-known low-budget movie actress who the meida MADE famous.
LOL  Best quote of the day!! This is too funny.
O'Reilly has given Obama great coverage, probably out of fear that he will be called a racist. The only thing O'Reilly criticizes Obama on is that he answers ZERO questions. The only shows he will go on are shows where the questions are softballs (they are questions designed to make Obama look good). One guy who COULD have asked Obama some real questions (Tim Russert) has been told by his superiors to hit Hillary and ask questions to make Obama look like Jesus Christ as much as he can.
Again, I think most people in this country that do not watch The View and other left-wing pro-Democrat shows would know that Obama is a media creation. He is all hype by the radical crowds. If you think Obama has any substance under his media worship, you are in for a big surprise once you look into his record.
Yes, Obama's middle name is HUSSEIN, like Saddam Hussein. That is his name, no matter what anyone says. Obama is from a Muslim family and he might be a Muslim to this day. He claims to be a church-goer, but we all know it is all politics. Same for Hillary and McCain who say they are Episcopal and Methodist.... PLEASE!! Anyone who is a Christian would know that abortion and gay marriage are against the Bible. These guys just claim to be Christians for politics.
After all, if Obama said he is Muslim, then WHO would vote for him (other than then extreme left)? Look at what happened to Romney for being a Mormon!!
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Johnny, Johnny, Johnny. Your name is Johnny, but nobody claims that you have scissors for hands or dress up like a pirate and wear mascara and eye shadow like Johnny Depp, now do they?
Uhhh -- you don't, do you?

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02-05-2008, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Fleet
Posting his voting record is not "hating."
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Well, when you consider ALL of the other comments by the poster trying desperately and without any success, to bash Barack, it IS "hating."
So what you will about this incredible black man, he stands TALL! Head and shoulders above the rest of the field.
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02-05-2008, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexus
So what you will about this incredible black man, he stands TALL! Head and shoulders above the rest of the field.
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Thank you for finally admitting that you are ONLY voting for him because he's a black man. Please see here:
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