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Old 01-07-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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Trying to blame Hillary for the actions of her husband isn't going to work. It will cause more women to vote against Trump. Especially any woman that ever had a cheating husband or cheating boyfriend or even a cheating father. Because it's not the spouses fault when they are cheated on. And it's not the spouses responsibility to clean up the mess that the cheater created. The spouse is a victim in this case. Blaming the victim by saying she is an enabler will backfire.

Trump is already low in poll numbers with women voters compared to other candidates(even in the primary against), and this will make it even worse for him.
I'm not blaming Hillary - but I can not respect a woman who stands by her man and attacks the women he abused. I don't believe in this "stand by your man" bs. When women these days stay with their husbands after an affair it's mostly because of the kids and the fact that they don't have the money to leave - or they don't want to lose their lifestyle and dreams. My friends who have stayed with their husbands after an affair fell into the first category - Hillary falls into the second.

As far as low poll numbers for Trump when it comes to women voters - there are more women I know that are supporting him than there are men. We're more upset with the PC crowd - the extreme feminism groups - the economy - world affairs ect than we are because of a few comments someone makes

 
Old 01-07-2016, 01:27 PM
 
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I dont suppose there are as many as you'd think. I went through the process for a casino license, the application alone was nearly 600 pages, and they wanted everything..

one might be able to attack him on moral character, or make bones about him being a hard line negotiator, which might actually provide reasons to vote for him, but financial, even through his economic issues, the public info is probably pretty dam clean.
Well, according to depositions - he raped his own wife and verbally abused her. Should be good.
 
Old 01-07-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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I believe it's called getting hundreds of thousands of dollars for giving speeches after you leave office. While they may have had negative net worth (due to legal fees from the impeachment and other related matters), IIRC the Clintons put down something like $800,000 towards the house they bought in Westchester.

Listen, allegations are just that. And no one here seems to understand the criminal elements of what Hillary allegedly did. You mention Petraeus, but he pled guilty because it was abundantly clear that he actually knew he was giving classified information to the mistress, which knowledge is required for a conviction. Let's just wait for what FBI says (you know, when Loretta Lynch, an Obama cabinet member, announces that FBI (a division of the US Attorney General's Office) didn't find anything to convict Hillary on . . . .watch someone get outraged over this very predictable outcome). Then the Republicans will insist on an independent investigator . . . . you know this bullchit drill.

Mick

How can you sit here and continue supporting her actions? She compromised her position by using an outside server. She had no business receiving or sending gov't emails to and from that server - whether they were classified or not. It's one thing to talk to your aide about the time for an embassy party on her private server - it's quite another to discuss talks you've had with other gov't and world officials. Even a grade schooler could pick out what would be considered private and what would be considered general conversation.

Had this been anyone else - even Bernie - you libs would go nuts.
 
Old 01-07-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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Well, according to depositions - he raped his own wife and verbally abused her. Should be good.

Again - divorce is stressful for anyone - male or female and many things are said that are false or exaggerated.

Donald Trump's Ex-Wife Ivana Disavows Old 'Rape' Allegation - ABC News
 
Old 01-07-2016, 01:32 PM
 
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I'm not blaming Hillary - but I can not respect a woman who stands by her man and attacks the women he abused. I don't believe in this "stand by your man" bs. When women these days stay with their husbands after an affair it's mostly because of the kids and the fact that they don't have the money to leave - or they don't want to lose their lifestyle and dreams. My friends who have stayed with their husbands after an affair fell into the first category - Hillary falls into the second.

As far as low poll numbers for Trump when it comes to women voters - there are more women I know that are supporting him than there are men. We're more upset with the PC crowd - the extreme feminism groups - the economy - world affairs ect than we are because of a few comments someone makes
I think saying that there are only two categories for women who choose to stay with their husbands is a gross mischaracterization. Women stay with their husbands for a multitude of reasons. Just as men sometimes choose to stay with their cheating wives. While I'm sure that President Clinton's infidelities have done considerable harm to his marriage, the fact that Secretary Clinton chose to stay with her husband is based on many factors. We aren't privy to her reasons, nor should we be. But being ignorant of those reasons, we are in no position to judge her.

I understand why we all want to know about the personal lives of our politicians, and how it plays into our determinations of whether these people are good leaders or not. But I think the focus on the personal aspects, while ignoring the policies they are proposing, the political positions they are taking, is not about wise-decision-making on our parts. It's about how salacious we are.
 
Old 01-07-2016, 01:48 PM
 
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Well, according to depositions - he raped his own wife and verbally abused her. Should be good.

For such a terrible man; he was invited to her wedding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivana_Trump. I don't think Monica holds the same sentiments about Bill.
 
Old 01-07-2016, 01:50 PM
 
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It's ironic too considering Mr. Trump is a self-admitted, repeat philanderer as well as someone who was alleged by his ex-wife Ivana to be a spousal rapist (of course, the terms of their divorce settlement contain a confidentiality provision as they all do). Moreover, in NYC, he was known to pressure women to "date" him by using his position of power (beauty pageants) . . . . the term "dry hump" has been used in conjunction with his name many times, to be honest.

I also know that he used to demand that his law firms send over their best looking paralegals with closing documents so that he can ogle or flirt with them while he signed the docs . . .

I don't have a problem with most of that (probably because I am a sexist pig, too), but it is absurd for Mr. Trump to act like he hasn't done anything that Bill Clinton allegedly has. They are one and the same. To pretend otherwise makes one very naive.

Mick


Mick, Mick, Mick.....you Democrats are clueless.........Bill Clinton's accusations of RAPE and sexual harassment in government when Bill Clinton had power. That is a serious offense, against the law especially when the Democrat party are the "champions of women's rights"....Hillary knew about this and was behind in going after all of this accusers.


This is NOT a personal matter or just an affair........all you said about Trump are tabloid allegations that never came from any woman's mouth directly so you are comparing apples to toilet paper.


Ivana has been on record that Trump NEVER raped her, she has nice things to say about him and also his kids......You can't say the same for Juanita Broaddrick which her story has been consistent since she went public in 1999.

Christopher Hitchens investigated and put the case on his book, "NO ONE LEFT TO LIE TO"....he made a strong argument that Broaddrick's claim of rape is credible.

Broaddricks business was audited by the I.R.S. when she went public, that's also abuse of power.



when Trump has a long list of women suing him and have gone public with their stories then you can compare him to Bubba Clinton but as of now there nothing to compare.......Bubba Clinton's crimes and cover up under Hillary's orders is a legit issue for a candidate running for President and the Chief Law Enforcer of the nation.

What Democrats are trying to do like you is, well Trump did it( no evidence, no one has come forward, no lawsuits) so whatever Bubba Clinton did and Hillary covered up is a wash and one cancels the other....LMAO!

PLEASE!
 
Old 01-07-2016, 02:15 PM
 
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Mick, Mick, Mick.....you Democrats are clueless.........Bill Clinton's accusations of RAPE and sexual harassment in government when Bill Clinton had power. That is a serious offense, against the law especially when the Democrat party are the "champions of women's rights"....Hillary knew about this and was behind in going after all of this accusers.


This is NOT a personal matter or just an affair........all you said about Trump are tabloid allegations that never came from any woman's mouth directly so you are comparing apples to toilet paper.


Ivana has been on record that Trump NEVER raped her, she has nice things to say about him and also his kids......You can't say the same for Juanita Broaddrick which her story has been consistent since she went public in 1999.

Christopher Hitchens investigated and put the case on his book, "NO ONE LEFT TO LIE TO"....he made a strong argument that Broaddrick's claim of rape is credible.

Broaddricks business was audited by the I.R.S. when she went public, that's also abuse of power.



when Trump has a long list of women suing him and have gone public with their stories then you can compare him to Bubba Clinton but as of now there nothing to compare.......Bubba Clinton's crimes and cover up under Hillary's orders is a legit issue for a candidate running for President and the Chief Law Enforcer of the nation.

What Democrats are trying to do like you is, well Trump did it( no evidence, no one has come forward, no lawsuits) so whatever Bubba Clinton did and Hillary covered up is a wash and one cancels the other....LMAO!

PLEASE!
What did Hillary cover up?

Broderick's story has changed. Certainly her claim is credible. But she has no evidence, and she HAS changed her story.

President Clinton is a serial adulterer. But so are a lot of men. And more than a few women.
 
Old 01-07-2016, 02:25 PM
 
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One thing seems pretty sure........Bill has been neutered this election.
 
Old 01-07-2016, 03:49 PM
 
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One thing seems pretty sure........Bill has been neutered this election.

Probably not for too long. Bill just misses his buddy Jeffery Epstein: Details on Bill Clinton's ride on pedophile's 'Lolita Express' sought | Washington Examiner. I am sure another Epstein will come along if Hillary get's the WH; Bill will need some distraction from all the duties of First Lady!
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