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Didn't Obama go to Iraq or somewhere with some GOP bigwig in the Senate? I seem to remember that and I believe it was with Dick Lugar. If he took more trips they would be calling him a junket king like the GOP ex-congressman Phil Crane. I also remember that before he was president, GWB was notorious for having been out of the country only very infrequently.
Yes, indeed, I have. Your supposition that I HAVEN'T is one of the arrogant assertions from the Obama side that angers me. I have probably 100 posts here clearly stating why I won't support Obama. But I will summarize the big ones here.
Foreign Policy -- TOTALLY and frighteningly green. A President does NOT meet personally with dictators. This is Foreign Policy 101 (and, yes, I do have a degree in political science.) Meeting with dictators gives them photo ops, credentials, and legitimacy. It tells the world that the U.S. president considers the dictator as a legitimate and equal leader, which the dictator then uses to his benefit. It doesn't matter what is said in the discussions (which are usually kept quiet anyway); the pictures live on.
Health Care -- If one is taking on the task of changing how it works, EVERYONE has to be on board. There can be no free passes for people not to participate or it won't work. If Bob down the road has gotten away with not participating, Betty is going to say "screw it," too. And then when Bob and Betty get sick, they'll just present themselves to the ER without sufficient funds to pay so nothing is solved. Analysts have looked at Obama's claims that everyone who isn't insured just can't afford it; they found at least 7 million uninsured who earn over $75,000 per year. Obama is naive and wrong.
Withdrawing from Iraq -- Obama insists on a timetable for total withdrawal. How on Earth can he do that when he doesn't even know what all it's going to entail? Locking oneself into a specific timetable is stupid. He's been trying to tap-dance around this but his words remain.
Unity -- He insists he can "unify" America and get everyone behind him. Then, why is he already making arrogant and bold assertions about those of us who don't support him? We've been called "fearful," "cynical," and "establishment." Ironically enough, it IS the establishment Democrats such as Teddy Kennedy that he is courting for support and putting out on show. So, it's just the average person he demonizes, not the actual establishment himself. That's called hypocrisy.
That's all for now.
well said and I completly agree!!
for him to say he will have us out in 16 months is insane
and Wolf tried his best to make Hillary lock in, but she is smarter than that
and carefully explained why it was dangerous, but it sailed over Wolf's head
as usual!
The worst political team is CNN
another thing Obama says if I won't vote for him I am stuck in the past
very much like George Bush telling me if I am against the war then I am un-american
I've been searching for a thread that talks about the current voting process and the delegates. Specifically, why is everyone saying Obama is ahead when Clinton obviously won in FL, a state with more people than several of the states Obama won put together. She won by a very big margin. She probably would have won in MI too. Also, a caucus like the one in Iowa is not representive of the people who live there. So much is being hidden from the American people. I read the blogs from people who live in Iowa, Nevada and other caucus states. I honestly never understood them until this year, but if you work for a living, chances are you won't get a chance to voice your opinion. If you can't take 5 hours off to sit around and chat because you have small children, you probably won't get a chance to vote. If you are handicapped, elderly or just can't get to the meetings, you won't count either. Many of the caucuses will not allow any absentee votes. You show up or you don't count. Religious Jews and Seventh Day Adventists who worship on Saturday were unable to attend the caucuses in Nevada. Many casino employees who wanted to vote for Clinton were unable to leave work. I wrote a long blog on another site, mainly because I'm a frustrated, disenchanted and disenfranchised Floridian who feels cheated by the entire system. How can over 300 delegates in Florida & Michigan not be seated? If they are, then won't the Obama supporters complain? I believe we should be able to vote again, so our voices will be heard. We have been insulted as we were in 2000 when the vote was stolen from us. This is not a "beauty contest." This is our right to vote for the candidate of our choice!
He couldn't even be bothered to visit Europe while chairing the European Affairs Committe.... he's been too busy running for president!
I'm afraid this is kind of Obama's M.O. -- He runs for stuff. He doesn't show a lot of leadership because he's always reaching for the next brass ring. There was an interesting editorial about this here: The Ridiculousness & Danger That Is Obama '08
well said and I completly agree!!
for him to say he will have us out in 16 months is insane
and Wolf tried his best to make Hillary lock in, but she is smarter than that
and carefully explained why it was dangerous, but it sailed over Wolf's head
as usual!
The worst political team is CNN
another thing Obama says if I won't vote for him I am stuck in the past
very much like George Bush telling me if I am against the war then I am un-american
What is insane is the current strategy in Iraq - which is no strategy. Hillary can't give specifics on what she would do because she wants to try to have it both ways. She is "against the war" but is fine to stay there forever. What makes her position any different from Bush on the War today, other than her dancing around about her initial War approval vote?
This provides a nice link about her Flopping on the War, one of the most important issues this election cycle.
Obama had the courage to step up to the plate and recommend a
timetable discussion. Or do we just stay in Iraq FOREVER??
This is why active duty military are giving money donations to Obama much more so than Hillary. They can see through her charade. They appreciate a candidate willing to come out and make a stand for them.
May I also say it is extremely ironic... that I read posts from some always complaining about not knowing what the "Change" is that Obama is talking about, and then turning around and ridiculing him for having the courage to step up and push a discussion to end the 5 plus years of occupation of Iraq.
Something most Americans should be able to appreciate, and Change they can get behind.
What is insane is the current strategy in Iraq - which is no strategy. Hillary can't give specifics on what she would do because she wants to try to have it both ways. She is "against the war" but is fine to stay there forever. What makes her position any different from Bush on the War today, other than her dancing around about her initial War approval vote?
This provides a nice link about her Flopping on the War, one of the most important issues this election cycle.
Obama had the courage to step up to the plate and recommend a
timetable discussion. Or do we just stay in Iraq FOREVER??
This is why active duty military are giving money donations to Obama much more so than Hillary. They can see through her charade. They appreciate a candidate willing to come out and make a stand for them.
I am saying is it is insane to put a date on when he will end this horror
I happen to have a friend right now serving in the Special Services putting his life on the line for us
if you think I do not want this ended then you don't know what fear is every time I hear of another death announced I hold my breath
Hillary said she hopes to have them home before the end of her first year
and said why
But durning this debate Wolf Blitzer kept pushing her to name a date
I think Obama is saying the first 16 months because that's what people want to hear
we all want this over but I want Dannie protected while it is happening
and by the way his family is voting for Hillary
well said and I completly agree!!
for him to say he will have us out in 16 months is insane
and Wolf tried his best to make Hillary lock in, but she is smarter than that
and carefully explained why it was dangerous, but it sailed over Wolf's head
as usual!
The worst political team is CNN
another thing Obama says if I won't vote for him I am stuck in the past
very much like George Bush telling me if I am against the war then I am un-american
"Fearful and cynical" is just a subjective judgment of someone's emotional state. "Un-American" is questioning someone's patriotism and what it means to be "American". They are totally different.
You guys are reaching on that one. It's like the kid in class who keeps running to the teacher tattling on every little thing the other kids do.
"Fearful and cynical" is just a subjective judgment of someone's emotional state. "Un-American" is questioning someone's patriotism and what it means to be "American". They are totally different.
You guys are reaching on that one. It's like the kid in class who keeps running to the teacher tattling on every little thing the other kids do.
Its to bad that only a few of us that watched that whole speech picked up on what he was really saying.
fearful
cynical
movement
our time has come
Sounds like he picked words right out of a speech by MLK
EW
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