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Old 01-28-2016, 04:31 AM
 
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Cruz is desperate,Trump isnt.Absolutely nothing in it for Trump to debate Cruz.
Also no need for Trump to go to this FOX debate and debate a bunch of also rans and low energy politicians,without Trump this FOX debate will be a very low energy event with few people bothering to tune in..
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Old 01-28-2016, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Florida
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He knows Trump is scared to debate. He wants to expose Trump's flaws.
Was Reagan afraid to debate when he refused one? Was Bush afraid when he refused them?

Bush actually might have been afraid given his horrible speaking skills, but Reagan didn't do it out of fear.

Besides, Trump is getting all the attention he wanted with the media going on and on about him right now.
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Old 01-28-2016, 05:05 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Cruz is desperate,Trump isnt.Absolutely nothing in it for Trump to debate Cruz.
Also no need for Trump to go to this FOX debate and debate a bunch of also rans and low energy politicians,without Trump this FOX debate will be a very low energy event with few people bothering to tune in..
I couldn't care less if it's "low energy," I want to hear about their views and policies. I don't want an exciting president, I want a competent one who doesn't quit when the going gets tough.

Is he going to quit on the American people if his approval ratings go down? His currents words and actions indicate he will.
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Old 01-28-2016, 05:10 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Was Reagan afraid to debate when he refused one? Was Bush afraid when he refused them?

Bush actually might have been afraid given his horrible speaking skills, but Reagan didn't do it out of fear.

Besides, Trump is getting all the attention he wanted with the media going on and on about him right now.
Bush and Reagan didn't do it because they were scared of some moderator, they didn't run around whining and crying. They didn't Twitter nasty, personal comments about said moderator. They at least had some dignity. The man is a wimpy quitter who has the thinnest skin I have ever seen in a politician. And yes, he is a politician, he is running for an elected office.
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Old 01-28-2016, 06:30 AM
 
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Was Reagan afraid to debate when he refused one? Was Bush afraid when he refused them?

Bush actually might have been afraid given his horrible speaking skills, but Reagan didn't do it out of fear.

Besides, Trump is getting all the attention he wanted with the media going on and on about him right now.
I remember before the Bush v Gore debate, the pundits were saying Gore was going to beat Bush badly. But that isn't what happened at all. Gore kept sighing and lecturing Bush like a condescending d-bag, and nearly everyone thought Bush won. It goes to show you can be a know-it-all and still not win if you aren't likeable. I feel Cruz is in that category.
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Old 01-28-2016, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Bush and Reagan didn't do it because they were scared of some moderator
The claim "because he is scared" is a strawman argument, and it can be applied to both Reagan and Bush as well as to anyone else.

FOX resorted to insults and taunts which shows they probably should not be playing any part in the election process.

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Old 01-28-2016, 07:24 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Cruz is desperate,Trump isnt.Absolutely nothing in it for Trump to debate Cruz.
Also no need for Trump to go to this FOX debate and debate a bunch of also rans and low energy politicians,without Trump this FOX debate will be a very low energy event with few people bothering to tune in..
Trump has a lot to gain from debating Cruz one-on-one. 1.5 million dollars for veterans is at stalk if he does it. If he doesn't do it, it just shows Trump really doesn't care as much about veterans as he claims he does. What he should do is match that 1.5 million with his own 1.5 million and all of America would tune into that debate. He won't do it, though, because he doesn't have a command for issues beyond the broad talking points he uses at his rallies. In other words, he's a chicken who is afraid to be exposed.
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Old 01-28-2016, 07:37 AM
 
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Bush and Reagan didn't do it because they were scared of some moderator, they didn't run around whining and crying.
The claim "because he is scared" is a strawman argument, and it can be applied to both Reagan and Bush as well as to anyone else.

FOX resorted to insults and taunts which shows they probably should not be playing any part in the election process.
You ignored the "of some moderator" part in your answer. That can not be applied to Reagan or Bush.

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Bush and Reagan didn't do it because they were scared of some moderator, they didn't run around whining and crying. They didn't Twitter nasty, personal comments about said moderator. They at least had some dignity. The man is a wimpy quitter who has the thinnest skin I have ever seen in a politician. And yes, he is a politician, he is running for an elected office.
As I said, they weren't undignified in they way they approached it. Neither was Paul. There is a difference between saying "I won't do ABC if XYZ" and "I won't do ABC because MS. T is part of XYZ and she's nasty."
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Old 01-28-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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You ignored the "of some moderator" part in your answer. That can not be applied to Reagan or Bush.
How can you apply it to Trump? You claim he is scared, but it is merely your personal opinion. Anyone make the same claim about Bush & Reagan, true or not. Just because you say something, doesn't make it true.
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Old 01-28-2016, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I thought it was slick move on behalf of Cruz. Either way Cruz wins...if he debates Trump one-on-one or if Trump refuses. If he refuses it will make Trump look like he's afraid to do it and he'll also be a chump for not doing it for the benefit of the veterans he keeps claiming to love so much. Brilliant!
You haven't learned anything from the past 7 months. Keep dreaming. After tonight we'll see how "brilliant" Cruz was.
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