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You are correct. And Seacove, people who work pay into Social Security. It's more like an annuity not a handout.
The middle class pays the bill but when they become elderly their SS will be above the income limit. I know because my makes mom is $5.82 too much to be able to get help. She's a 50's woman, stay at home and take care of the kids and didn't start working until her 40's so she didn't have time to build up a decent SS. And she STILL does not qualify for help.
The income limits are so low for help in your elderly years that for someone to qualify they'd have to be a taker most of their lives.
Your mom was fortunate to stay home with the kids. Most moms work and take care of the kids and go to college and have to maintain their education and still pay into Medicare and Social Security. And if your mom got to stay home until her 40s I don't know why I should have to supplement her. I don't know why I should have to supplement the elderly at all. I would rather they took more out for Medicare or tell those that have spent their Medicare funds that the well is dry. Your mom has only worked 10+ years in her life? She should be quite happy for her lot.
The poor will get free home nursing care, home modifications so they can go home, free medical, free food, free medication, subsidized heating. The middle class will not qualify for any of this.
This is not true. What is happening now is they are giving their assets to family members and receiving Medicaid! Medicaid is the number one way the elderly are paying for nursing care. The elderly are receiving Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid! They are getting it all. Read up on it, they have tried to limit ways they basically scam to receive Medicaid but they still find ways to do it.
In other civilized countries, everyone gets a pension of between $10 000 and $20 000 per year depending on the country, when they reach the age of 65 or 67, regardless of whether they have worked or not. Its the type of "second bill of rights" that FDR was fighting for, where everyone has a right to a minimum standard of living.
America is the richest country in the world, but still hasnt managed to provide the people with a minimum standard of living as the billionaire class pour money into the political process to make sure ordinary Americans get the short end of the stick.
In other civilized countries, everyone gets a pension of between $10 000 and $20 000 depending on the country when they reach retirement age, regardless of whether they have worked or not. Its the type of "second bill of rights" that FDR was fighting for, where everyone has a right to a minimum standard of living.
Yet health care coverage is a bad thing. Let's make sure everyone has a nice retirement whether they worked or not, but health coverage is bad. Absolutely ridiculous. If someone had the luxury of staying at home during the years I've been working and juggling family responsibilities, I don't owe them a cushy retirement. I just want to know my fellow citizens can go to the doctor and get treatment and not fear what will happen to them if they get a life threatening disease. I don't need to make sure they are retiring in comfort.
Yet health care coverage is a bad thing. Let's make sure everyone has a nice retirement whether they worked or not, but health coverage is bad. Absolutely ridiculous. If someone had the luxury of staying at home during the years I've been working and juggling family responsibilities, I don't owe them a cushy retirement. I just want to know my fellow citizens can go to the doctor and get treatment and not fear what will happen to them if they get a life threatening disease. I don't need to make sure they are retiring in comfort.
Do you support a minimum pension for everyone when they reach a certain age so they can at least live in dignity? In other social democratic countries, this is accepted by everyone. And people dont have the freedom to go bankrupt from cancer treatment, workers are entitled to at least 5 weeks of paid vacation to improve health and family connections, all workers are allowed paid time off to say goodbye to a dying parent, there is no for-profit prison industry and public money is invested in its people instead of corporate welfare, a massive prison system and a military industrial complex. Isnt that what we should strive for?
Just because Christie endorsed him doesn't make NJ red in the general. Christie wasn't even winning the Republican nomination polls in NJ before he drops out, so I doubt his endorsement sways things in a state that his been historically blue for some time even when they do have a Republican governor. Mass is the same way - they elect a R for governor every now and again to shake things up but it doesn't mean they go red in the general election.
Maybe Trump offered Christie the use if his airplane.
Christie just lining up a new job since he can't run for reelection.
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