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It's not just Wall Street types who are making $1 million or more each year; this policy affects both her friends and enemies. Of course she is going to follow through on it, when did she ever backed away from what she promised to do? If there is one thing we know about Hillary that both sides can agree on, is that if Hillary Clinton fails, is not due to lack of trying.
Clinton, with allies on both sides of the aisle, a known centrist, and herself a multi-millionaire; has a louder voice than the socialist Sanders. She can simply say, "Look, this bill hurts me more than any of you, and I'm willing to make the sacrifice for the good of the country." With Sanders, the opposition will just say, "The socialist is out to get your money!"
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Republicans hate Clinton. Sanders has worked with Republicans for decades and got lots of legislation passed. It's a myth that he is ideological and doesnt compromise. Some of the most conservative members of Congress call Sanders a close friend. Hell, McCain (who is another friend of Sanders) would probably endorse Sanders instead of many of the Republican candidates in the race.
Republicans hate Clinton. Sanders has worked with Republicans for decades and got lots of legislation passed. It's a myth that he is ideological and doesnt compromise. Some of the most conservative members of Congress call Sanders a close friend. Hell, McCain (who is another friend of Sanders) would probably endorse Sanders instead of many of the Republican candidates in the race.
This is a myth. Republicans lawmakers certainly don't hate Clinton; yes, they like to paddle that to the Fox News zombies to get street cred but on Capital Hill, many Republicans enjoyed working with Hillary. She has made many conservative friends, some of them will surprise you - like Sam Brownback and Rick Santorum. They are her allies behind close door even if they openly curse her on Fox News.
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But among the prayer groups, one holds special status: a tight-knit gathering of about a dozen senators which still meets every Wednesday morning for prayer and discussion, led by Douglas Coe himself.
The roster of regular participants has included such notable conservative names as Brownback, Santorum, Nickles, Enzi, and Inhofe. Then, in 2001, just after the new class of senators was sworn in, another name was added to the list: Hillary Rodham Clinton.
But as he stood before his colleagues Brownback spotted Clinton, and was overcome with the impulse to change the subject of his testimony. “I came here today prepared to share about this experience in my life that has caused great suffering, the result of which has deepened my faith,” Brownback said, according to someone who watched the scene unfold. “But I’m overcome now with only one thought.” He confessed to having hated Clinton and having said derogatory things about her. Through God, he now recognized his sin. Then he turned to her and asked, “Mrs. Clinton, will you forgive me?” Clinton replied that she would, and that she appreciated the apology.
“It was an extraordinary moment,” the member told me.
This repentance fostered an unlikely relationship that has yielded political bounty. Clinton and Brownback went on to cosponsor one measure protecting refugees fleeing sexual abuse, and another to study the effects on children of violent video games and television shows. “That morning helped make our working relationship,” Brownback told me recently. “It brought me close to someone I did not ever imagine I would become close to.” Since then, Clinton has teamed up on legislation with many members of the prayer group.
Hillary Clinton’s proficiency in this innermost sanctum has unnerved some of the capital’s most exalted religious conservatives. “You’re not talking about some tree-hugging, Jesus-is-my-Buddha sort of stuff,” says David Kuo, a former Bush official in the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, who worked with Clinton to promote joint legislation and who, like Brownback, has apologized to her for past misdeeds. “These are powerful evangelicals she’s meeting with.” Like many conservatives, they are caught between warring dictates of their faith: the religious one, which requires them to embrace a fellow Christian, and the political one, more powerful in some, which causes them to instinctively distrust the motives of a Clinton. Everyone in Washington experiences their dilemma at one time or another—the lack of an Archimedean point from which to judge Hillary Clinton.
But few in the Senate today would deny that, whatever her motives, Clinton is diligent about her work there, and successful in ways that have moderated her image. Her deft touch with conservative colleagues has thus far neutralized the Republican National Committee’s strategy of getting people to put her in the same mental category as bumbling liberals like Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean. She’s no easy target. Her partnerships were deemed so successful in moderating her image that Karl Rove, according to a source close to him, sent word last year to halt Republican cooperation with her—an edict that has been ignored.
Republican senators are confronting an unsettling possibility: Sen. Ted Cruz, their least favorite colleague, stands within reach of becoming the party's presidential nominee and standard-bearer. Sen. Richard Burr of North Carolina, told supporters at a campaign fundraiser for his own re-election that he would vote for liberal Sen. Bernie Sanders for president before Cruz, according to one person who attended the event. Burr did not appear to be joking, said the person, who demanded anonymity to discuss the private gathering.
This is a myth. Republicans lawmakers certainly don't hate Clinton; yes, they like to paddle that to the Fox News zombies to get street cred but on Capital Hill, many Republicans enjoyed working with Hillary. She has made many conservative friends, some of them will surprise you - like Sam Brownback and Rick Santorum. They are her allies behind close door even if they openly curse her on Fox News.
I have no doubt Hillary can "get things done". The problem is not that. The problem is WHAT is she going to "get done" if she becomes President. Start another conflict? Ignore financial markets? Ignore other policies? That's the problem, we don't know for sure based on her record.
Clinton's problem is that most Americans (including many Democrats) don't trust her. And rightly so. She is in the pack pocket of Wall Street. The Clintons were instrumental in NAFTA. She behaves as if she is above the rules. And she has no real core values beyond getting elected.
Say what you will about Bernie (and I could say a lot), he seems motivated by genuine concern for the country, even if I disagree with a lot of his views. Clinton seems motivated in capping her career.
But we're still a long way from this race being decided. Bernie will win New Hampshire. Clinton will win South Carolina. After that ... ?
Clinton does get things done.. The problem is she later claims she had nothing to do with it, opposed it, or that she has to lie, manipulate etc to get it done..
If only she was honest about things, and pro capitalists, I'd be her biggest supporter..
I have no doubt Hillary can "get things done". The problem is not that. The problem is WHAT is she going to "get done" if she becomes President. Start another conflict? Ignore financial markets? Ignore other policies? That's the problem, we don't know for sure based on her record.
Eh? She has the most visible records out of all the candidates. What do you mean ignore financial markets?? What gives you that idea? Start another conflict? Did you confuse her with a Republican? These accusations are strange.
If you think she's going to do something you don't like, let's hear what they are! Don't use innuendos, lay them out!
What are her accomplishments besides getting fired from the Watergate investigation, being balls deep in the Whitewater scandal, Travelgate, her failed Hillarycare, her war on Bill's sexual assault victims, dodging sniper fire in the Balkans, riding Bill's coattails as a carpetbagger into the senate, the Arab Spring fiasco, Benghazi, and exposing all our foreign affairs secrets to hacking via her illegal server designed to hide her corrupt dealings with the Russians & Libyans?
One way to look at her Iowa "victory" is she couldn't beat a 74-year-old socialist/commie despite having a much better organization there.
47 percent of the people are useful idiots. That's her base and that's who voted for her.
She only got 3 percent of the people paying attention. The other 50 percent felt the 74-year-old socialist/commie was the better choice. What a pitiful state the democrat party has disintegrated into.
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Eh? She has the most visible records out of all the candidates. What do you mean ignore financial markets?? What gives you that idea?
Yep, visible records of failure after failure--but Dems don't seem to care.
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Start another conflict? Did you confuse her with a Republican? These accusations are strange.
Well, a few years ago she was salivating to nuke Iran--perhaps she's still thinking about it.
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If you think she's going to do something you don't like, let's hear what they are! Don't use innuendos, lay them out!.
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