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Old 02-09-2016, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Adding a new tax to American workers' pension plans and retirement accounts ISN'T the solution. Come up with something else.

BS. There is $27 Trillion invested in American workers' and retirees' financial retirement assets and they're constantly in flux given the constant deposits and draws by millions of people.
The Eisenhower model worked because the goal was to put more money into the hands of more people. The love affair with Greed which began with Reagan and accelerated under all administrations, most especially Clinton's and Obama's, is what got us into this stupendous mess of extreme concentration of wealth and surreal debt.

Every mainstream politician will just deliver more of the same.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:40 AM
 
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Where exactly is $14.5 trillion he wants to pour into the economy coming from? It's only $43,000 plus per citizen.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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Adding a new tax to American workers' pension plans and retirement accounts ISN'T the solution. Come up with something else.
You, I've long supported this (even before Sanders) and its what I am going to vote for.

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BS. There is $27 Trillion invested in American workers' and retirees' financial retirement assets and they're constantly in flux given the constant deposits and draws by millions of people.
Those people aren't the ones making hundreds of transactions a day.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Hardly what the real revolutionaries of this country fought for.
No it wasn't, was it? And certainly that gimme attitude was not my original philosophy, nor one I raised my kids with.

But, hey, ya have to stay current. Why not jump in and demand my "fair share", too? Deficit be damned. Why fight a losing battle?

Viva Che!
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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Adding a new tax to American workers' pension plans and retirement accounts ISN'T the solution. Come up with something else.

BS. There is $27 Trillion invested in American workers' and retirees' financial retirement assets and they're constantly in flux given the constant deposits and draws by millions of people.
Why not add a tax credit for middle class folks if you are so worried? This tax will be tiny for regular folks and can easily be circumvented by a tax credit to protect Joe Sixpack who you claim to be worried about. You act just like Robot Rubio with your extremely repetitive manner and you constantly grovel for the richest people in the country that screw the working class folks in this country. Do you honestly think they care about people like yourself?
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Where exactly is $14.5 trillion he wants to pour into the economy coming from? It's only $43,000 plus per citizen.
Can you provide the source of this figure? I've never heard Bernie advocate printing $14 trillion more dollars. If he did, he would be the darling of the Billionaire Class as was Obama.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:44 AM
 
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No it wasn't, was it? And certainly that gimme attitude was not my original philosophy, nor one I raised my kids with.

But, hey, ya have to stay current. Why not jump in and demand my "fair share", too? Why fight a losing battle?

Viva Che!
It beats licking the boots of people who laugh at ordinary Americans. Why should people without an education work as shills for the rich? Wall Street doesnt care who wins of the Republians or Hillary. They are all in their pocket.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:45 AM
 
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I agree. It is misguided. Waste has to be carved out of D.C., Inc. More money for government means more money for the Billionaire Class.

A well thought out healthcare system is also needed instead of the abomination that we now have that is costing us 18% of our GNP, 50% more than all other developed nations with worse results. It is despicable how Obama gave Big Pharm all it wanted and it is costing us dearly.
We have to stop subsidizing the rest of the world's medical care by paying higher prices for pharmaceuticals and diagnostic equipment here in the US. That's a trade problem, and Congress and Obama should be dealing with that instead of putting the US and American workers at even more of a disadvantage with the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

Another problem is other countries' flagrant practice of taking a medication or diagnostic device developed in the US at great R&D cost, reverse engineering it, and mass producing it very inexpensively.

Let's see some solutions offered for those things instead of loading a new tax onto American retirees' backs - looking at YOU, Bernie!
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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You, I've long supported this (even before Sanders) and its what I am going to vote for.



Those people aren't the ones making hundreds of transactions a day.
The Oligarchy literally stole $trillions from working people. This economy won't work until something is done to reverse this theft.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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Why not add a tax credit for middle class folks if you are so worried? This tax will be tiny for regular folks and can easily be circumvented by a tax credit to protect Joe Sixpack who you claim to be worried about. You act just like Robot Rubio with your extremely repetitive manner and you constantly grovel for the richest people in the country that screw the working class folks in this country. Do you honestly think they care about people like yourself?
Why would it have to be added? In earlier threads on the same subject you said the tax credit was already part of the plan. It's either there or it's not, which is it?
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