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Old 02-09-2016, 10:22 AM
 
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Again....no solution.
I'm not the one touting that the solution is to add another tax onto the backs of American workers and retirees. Bernie and YOU are.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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No it won't. Just go after the wealthy with taxes until they've paid back about $20 trillion.

If they don't like it they can move to China, and leave America for real Americans who are willing to contribute their fair share to the country's operations.
They will, at least they will move the jobs there like they've been doing. Americans will still be paying for the product. It won't work that way, and hasn't worked that way.

Trump - yes, they can move on but they won't be able to sell their crap here. There is a big difference in the two scenarios.

Our trade policies have to change before we tell business to f off and move to another country for production. They'd have to take Target and Walmart with them in order for us to gain from that.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:23 AM
 
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No it won't. Just go after the wealthy with taxes until they've paid back about $20 trillion.

If they don't like it they can move to China, and leave America for real Americans who are willing to contribute their fair share to the country's operations.
Far right wingers are so afraid and worried for the well being of billionaires that they would rather turn America into a full blown feudal state so they would have to leave America themselves.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:24 AM
 
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Examples would be nice. Most of who voted for Obama thought he had those principle things.
The first time. It was obvious he didn't soon after he was elected. No excuses after that.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Austin
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HaHa.......I don't think you will fit in to that crowd as you are unable to stick to your principles like Bernie.
I'm switchin' sides, Blondy! Gimme!
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:25 AM
 
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I'm not the one touting that the solution is to add another tax onto the backs of American workers and retirees. Bernie and YOU are.
As I said, this is how I know when I'm on the right track. Those who argue otherwise have no alternatives.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:26 AM
 
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They will, at least they will move the jobs there like they've been doing. Americans will still be paying for the product. It won't work that way, and hasn't worked that way.

Trump - yes, they can move on but they won't be able to sell their crap here. There is a big difference in the two scenarios.

Our trade policies have to change before we tell business to f off and move to another country for production.
These corporations and their lackeys in media and think tanks are nothing but paper tigers. It's easy to call their bluff when they begin with their "threatening behavior".
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Examples would be nice. Most of who voted for Obama thought he had those principle things.
The most obvious would be his vote against v the Haliburton War (sometimes referred to as the Iraq War). At that time it took real True Grit and principles to stand up to the waves of lies about WMDs that was streaming out of the White House. I was against the war because I saw it for v what it was, a gravy train for the neo-cons. I got a lot of heat and I can't imagine the heat that Bernie was taking. At the end, principles win out. He didn't cave in. Clinton was more than happy to go along as did almost all of the Republican party. Paul was the exception. Another politician with principles.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:26 AM
 
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They will, at least they will move the jobs there like they've been doing. Americans will still be paying for the product. It won't work that way, and hasn't worked that way.

Trump - yes, they can move on but they won't be able to sell their crap here. There is a big difference in the two scenarios.

Our trade policies have to change before we tell business to f off and move to another country for production. They'd have to take Target and Walmart with them in order for us to gain from that.
Our trade policies do need to change. Maybe something like Germany's?
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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I won't say Bernie is a bad guy but he is definitely not the economic growth candidate and after all that Wall Street hate speech you could expect any win by him to be correlated with a significant stock market drop.
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