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Old 02-09-2016, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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Why did the Republican Party reject Rand Paul? It was a failure of the party to get behind Establishment favorites like Rubio, Bush, Cruz, etc. With that said, I'm glad that Bernie is still there and going strong
The Republican party is deluded by its sense of self-importance. It can't seem to comprehend that it's establishment cronies don't appeal to Democrats or independents or disenfranchised small-government fiscally conservatives Republicans, and that there aren't enough partisan pro-establishment voters to carry a candidate.
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Old 02-09-2016, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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This doesnt make sense. Employer paid premiums are tax deductible. Payroll taxes are not. That's a fact. What is not in any doubt is that you and me will get substantially improved bargaining power over employers as we no longer are chained to the employer because of health insurance. Improved bargaining power is good for you and me when entering salary negotiations.
I'm not chained now. In May I left a company that offered health insurance at very little cost to me for a very small company that doesn't offer health insurance at all. I used the fact that they didn't offer insurance as a bargaining chip to get a salary that puts more money in my pocket even after paying insurance premiums out of pocket.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:04 PM
 
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This doesnt make sense. Employer paid premiums are tax deductible. Payroll taxes are not. That's a fact. What is not in any doubt is that you and me will get substantially improved bargaining power over employers as we no longer are chained to the employer because of health insurance. Improved bargaining power is good for you and me when entering salary negotiations.

Even more reason they wont automatically be giving them back to employees in the form of a raise.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:04 PM
 
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Sorry, I'm not lazy at all. And I COULD support Sanders, if I could get answers to some of the answers I seek. One of the big ones is some sort of firewall in his proposed taxes on investment that will protect small investors. If you have this information, you could help win me over if you supply it. By not doing so you're not hurting anyone but Bernie.

And if you don't have the information you need to stop acting like you do.
How many trades do you do a year? I have no idea what the average is but I do little to none. None right now at all as since the first of the year, I'm out.

So a little investor does 100 trades. That's like $5.00 a year.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:07 PM
 
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I wouldn't waste my time on this anymore. There is no tax credit.


Further, part of the way he plans to pay for this, is eliminating employer paid insurance via his health care proposals and then ASSUMING that those employers will take the money they save and give it to their employees in the form of an increase to their wages.


That is a huge assumption imo and ooops when it doesn't happen more tax increases on everyone.
Employers will be required to contribute to health care just the same as they are doing now.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:08 PM
 
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The Waltons can choose to shut down Walmart at any time.

Believe it or not, sometimes rich people DO create jobs... I know because I once worked for one.

But let me guess... that rich guy didn't build his business... somebody else did that, right? LOL!
Somebody else bailed him out. That's the problem.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:14 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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How many trades do you do a year? I have no idea what the average is but I do little to none. None right now at all as since the first of the year, I'm out.

So a little investor does 100 trades. That's like $5.00 a year.
OK. pknopp won't be harmed by Bernie's new tax on American workers and retirees. Good for you. All the others will.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:14 PM
 
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Even more reason they wont automatically be giving them back to employees in the form of a raise.
If you're smart, and most republicans claim to be really smart and hard-working, you would do really well in wage negotiations considering how much more bargaining power a medicare-for-all system gives workers.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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OK. pknopp won't be harmed by Bernie's new tax on American workers and retirees. Good for you. All the others will.
You MUST vote for Robot Rubio.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:19 PM
 
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OK. pknopp won't be harmed by Bernie's new tax on American workers and retirees. Good for you. All the others will.
Solution? Bitching is not one.
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