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Old 02-09-2016, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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And who makes that necessary and possible? Private companies? No. The federal government does.

You're aiming your weapon at the wrong people. I know it's populist to hate big corporations (often for no rational reason whatsoever) but the cold reality is that all of this is enabled by politicians in Washington DC.

You hate crony capiltalism? Good! Ask yourself who makes that possible.
The Billionaire Class owns Government. They are one and the same. That is why it is an Oligarchy. Actually exactly the same as what evolved in Russia and China.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:11 AM
 
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No it wasn't, was it? And certainly that gimme attitude was not my original philosophy, nor one I raised my kids with.

But, hey, ya have to stay current. Why not jump in and demand my "fair share", too? Deficit be damned. Why fight a losing battle?

Viva Che!

HaHa.......I don't think you will fit in to that crowd as you are unable to stick to your principles like Bernie.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:12 AM
 
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Why work at all? The government should take care of us, right?
They sure take care of Wall Street, why should others expect less?
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:13 AM
 
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You've long supported adding a new tax onto the backs of America's retirees? No thanks.

You seem to be ignorant of the fact that the end user/consumer always pays. Bernie's financial transaction tax not only hits American workers' and retirees' pension and retirement accounts, but it also hits them up for HFT costs because, as we all know, the costs of doing business (including taxes) are passed on to the end user/consumer.

Bad idea. Bernie is an idiot.
Again....no solution.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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Nope, it is in the proposal. A tax credit for households making 75k a year. If you dont even know what it is about, why do you even discuss it.
You're the one claiming it's there. I've read everything I can about his plans and can't find anything about it. If it's there please post a specific link to the information. Not a link to the front page of his campaign website, but a link to the actual page the information about the tax credit is located on.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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What???????????


Some of ya'll have serious problems with reading comprehension.


Bernie hasn't been able to change the views of the Congress he's worked with for over 25 years
...and congress is elected by the people, and reflects their views.

So if you expect Bernie to suddenly convince Congressmen to be democratic socialists over the span of 3 decades, that means you think the American people are going to vote in Democratic socialists. Or else you don't understand how democracy works.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:18 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Hah! You claim to be so hard-working and not lazy, yet you keep repeating yourself endlessly about something you havent even looked at and read. Oh, the irony.
You tell us, then, because I couldn't find it anywhere... A tax credit of what? How much? How is the amount determined? Let's see the specifics.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:18 AM
 
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Yes, ok, and Bernie has this magic wand tucked away? Because that's what it will take!
No it won't. Just go after the wealthy with taxes until they've paid back about $20 trillion. If they don't like it they can move.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:19 AM
 
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You're the one claiming it's there. I've read everything I can about his plans and can't find anything about it. If it's there please post a specific link to the information. Not a link to the front page of his campaign website, but a link to the actual page the information about the tax credit is located on.
Hell no. You're a lazybone who cant even bother to read the plan.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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My vote is based upon principles. Pure and simple. I've never been disappointed by supporting a person with principles.
Examples would be nice. Most of who voted for Obama thought he had those principle things.
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