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Old 02-11-2016, 06:54 AM
 
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well, I grew up in an upper middle class neighborhood, I'd say 90% are white.
I think the great success of the upper middle class today is that they(we) get to live in a separate world of well-manicured neighborhoods with great schools, intact families, and cultural confidence.

The vast middle of the middle fears that unless you’re on the way up, you’re on the way down.

Let's face it, both party establishments have lost white middle class or middle class in general.

Sanders appeals to the strong desire that the white middle class has to recover its central role in the national project. While he attracts support from a wealthier stratum of the middle class than Trump, the appeal is the same.
Many of us Trump supporters also like Sanders, crazy I know.
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:05 AM
 
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looking at the sanders campaign, it's hard to ignore that his supporters tend to be overwhelmingly white, especially white middle class and white males, and now with increasing number of white females too.

his crowds are largely white. some say he is from vermont. but he has had enough time in the media. by now, people know him.

what makes white people support sanders?

and what causes less than predicted support from people of color and naturalized immigrants?
A lot of middle class minorities are supporting Bernie here in Miami. Maybe not enough to win the primary but more people who would usually vote for Hillary are now passionate Sanders supporters.

I'm surprised how quickly his support has grown. 8 months ago no one was talking about Bernie Sanders.
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:19 AM
 
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Mostly white college kids support Bernie. "The youth vote". Who can blame them? Bernie is offering free stuff and drugs. Obama offered the same thing. The problem with Clinton is she hasn't told young people that their parents will pay for everything. Once she does that, she will get the votes.
My college kid is ALL about Bernie. I'm more pragmatic.


I saw today - a guy that had served in Congress with him and he said that never heard the Bern speak up about racial issues; nor did he think that Bernie had accomplished much.
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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My college kid is ALL about Bernie. I'm more pragmatic.


I saw today - a guy that had served in Congress with him and he said that never heard the Bern speak up about racial issues; nor did he think that Bernie had accomplished much.
I think that was an unfair attack by the Clinton surrogate in Congress. They try to portray Sanders as indifferent to racism in order to preserve their "firewall" in the South.

Sanders was arrested in the 1960s and got a criminal record for protesting racial segregation in Chicago. At at time when it was actually dangerous to do so.

Here Sanders is in 1988 as he makes a speech about his "Rainbow coalition" with Jesse Jackson as its presidential frontrunner, bringing all people of all colors together:

1988 Speech on Race Progress and the Democratic Party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCv6KMfHIeM

As you can see, Sanders was actually born with white hair.
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Old 02-11-2016, 11:39 AM
 
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My college kid is ALL about Bernie. I'm more pragmatic.


I saw today - a guy that had served in Congress with him and he said that never heard the Bern speak up about racial issues; nor did he think that Bernie had accomplished much.

I may not agree with everything Sanders has to offer but to claim he has never cared about racial issues is the biggest lie ever. One thing Sanders has is integrity. Clinton, Trump or Rubio don't know what that word means.
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Old 02-11-2016, 11:40 AM
 
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Bernie Sanders is an interesting figure in modern politics. I don't think that it's quite right to dismiss him as a "crazy old socialist". I was attending college in New England when he was themayor of Burlington, Vermont. Ultimately he ran for a U.S. representatives seatand then the senate. Burlington is about as left wing granola as it gets but he's remained in office as a senator because he's looked out for the majorityof the Vermonters that live in the country. Rural Vermonters tend to be politically very conservative. That includes family dairy and maple syrupfarmers and people that own fruit orchards. He's also had a largely"middle of the road" stand on the second amendment. Rather than asocialist I consider him a populist who's appeals to a wide range of Americans who have understandably grown distrustful of the status quo that's been coming out of Washington for decades. I for one am glad that he's stirring things upin the tired world of democratic party politics
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Old 02-11-2016, 11:45 AM
 
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Until now, he has been campaigning in white Iowa and white New Hampshire. What would you have him do, bus in people of color? Let's see how his crowds and support go as he gets into territory that is more representative of the country.
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Old 02-11-2016, 11:46 AM
 
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Bigger problem for Bernie.

White middle class has abandoned the Democrats.
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Old 02-11-2016, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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It's so transparent that the Sanders shills at this board want to steer real clear of this. He avoided a key Senate vote in order to spend the day with the biggest race-baiting tax-evading PR pig America has ... Al Sharpton.

Pandering for the black vote at the cost of voting on an important measure. He himself called North Korea a "key concern" just the other day ... then avoided his responsibility to participate in the vote. Foreign policy is his big weakness. It *will* be exploited in coming months and rightfully so.
I suspect that Bernie weighed in as to whether his presence would be needed to pass the bill, one which passed 96-0: Senate Votes to Block North Korea's Nuclear Ambitions - NBC News Of course for those on their knees in front of Hillary, all they heard was: Clinton camp hits Sanders over missed North Korea vote | TheHill

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Many of us Trump supporters also like Sanders, crazy I know.
I am one of the them too. "Outside the box"! I don't care how we get out, just as long as we get out!

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Until now, he has been campaigning in white Iowa and white New Hampshire. What would you have him do, bus in people of color? Let's see how his crowds and support go as he gets into territory that is more representative of the country.
Funny, I had been thinking that all along. Obviously, people aren't aware of those demographics. Iowa is 91.2% white and New Hampshire is 94% white. These totals are from QuickFacts from the Census Bureau.

Can you imagine the uproar if one of the candidates was found busing in minorities to beef up their audience?
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Bigger problem for Bernie.

White middle class has abandoned the Democrats.
Not really. Somewhat more whites vote Republican than Democrat but 40-45% of white voters isn't abandonment.
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