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Old 02-09-2016, 07:20 PM
 
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Wait for the haters to come out.

Trump wins as expected and it shows that the Clinton era is over.
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home Chicago!
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clinton to play the victim card soon
She's delivering a standard load of crap establishment speech right now.
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Sanders is crushing Trump in polls. Much higher than Hillary. And if they bring an establishment candidate, Sanders will get a huge number of the anti-establishment vote which is huge this election. Trump and Sanders campaigners were specifically targeting the same people in NH according to media reports. The cross-over appeal is very real.

Did you see the independent vote in NH: 72-27. That's a crushing defeat for Hillary in yet another general election swing state. Independent voters in swing states are what win elections in addition to bringing more people into the political process, young people, disillusioned people etc. That's what the Sanders campaign is doing.
Sanders and Clinton broke about even among Democrats though. The vast majority of upcoming primaries are closed, party only affairs in territory that favors Clinton (minorities). This was Bernie's high point. There won't be many celebrations ahead.
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:21 PM
 
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To me it's not the least bit surprising that Sanders won big with millennials and indepdents, they comprise the majority of his base.

The surprising notion is that he won big with women 54% to 44% according to CNN's exit polling data. Looks like Hillary still has significant inroads to make with a voting bloc that she probably expected to have locked down
And keep in mind, those 54% women are going to hell for voting Sanders according to Albright!! They are not afraid!
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:21 PM
 
Location: between three Great Lakes.
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If there's anything dispiriting about tonight's results (at least at 9:20 EST) it's that Cruz has gotten so "many" votes in New Hampshire.
Oh, if only his mom had had access to RU-486...
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:23 PM
 
Location: between three Great Lakes.
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Wait for the haters to come out
Trump wins as expected and it shows that the Clinton era is over.
Who do you mean by "haters?"
and
Bill Clinton hasn't been in office in years.
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:24 PM
 
Location: MPLS
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"Did you see the independent vote in NH: 72-27. That's a crushing defeat for Hillary in yet another general election swing state."
Eh, Hillary won Iowa. By a hair, but still much better than '08.

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"Independent voters in swing states are what win elections ..."
No, no they aren't — not anymore. ~10% of the electorate is truly "independent"; the rest are liars. Hillary just needs to resurrect the Obama coalition and she wins. Are Republicans still opposed to ObamaCare, Dodd-Frank, gun control, gay marriage, immigration reform, and legal abortion? Okay, then it shouldn't be much of a challenge.
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Watching Hillary's concession speech now.. Gag. The nerve of her bragging about her work with abused children - after snickering during an interview where she bragged about getting the rapist who beat and raped a 12 year old child off with a slap on the hand. She is truly despicable.
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:24 PM
 
Location: NY
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She's delivering a standard load of crap establishment speech right now.
Yeah, she really gives an annoying my speech. My liberal wife asked me to put the volume on mute.
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:25 PM
 
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Sanders and Clinton broke about even among Democrats though. The vast majority of upcoming primaries are closed, party only affairs in territory that favors Clinton (minorities). This was Bernie's high point. There won't be many celebrations ahead.
We are talking general elections here. Sanders will get the Democrat vote. But he is much better equipped to get the independent vote and getting more people out to vote. That's why I thin he is clearly the better candidate. Everyone respects Sanders because he is seen as a straight shooter and honest politician. That is truly a trait that is golden in a general election.

Regarding upcoming primaries, remember this poll of likely caucus goers from Nevada a couple of weeks ago. Sanders only 4% behind Hillary, and this was before both Iowa and NH.

http://overtimepolitics.com/pollingd...oll-Nevada.pdf
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