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Old 02-10-2016, 08:01 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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He was an independent to begin with and is simply being used by the Democrat party establishment when he serves his purpose for them. But its clear that the Democrat establishment respects Bernie even less than the GOP establishment respects Trump and Cruz and treats him even more unfairly than how Trump and Cruz are treated.

First of all, even though Bernie won a significant primary victory against Hillary in New Hampshire, she may well still get more delegates than him from New Hampshire. Of course Hillary was so obviously happy during her primary night in NH smiling in her speech, because despite the popular vote in the primary, she still technically won the state through the Democrat superdelegates who are allowed to vote against what the people vote for.

Then back in Iowa, Hillary Clinton won by FIVE coin tosses all in her favor. That is a 1 in 3125 chance. Yet the party establishment presents that as fact and it goes unchallenged.

The Democrat establishment is not treating Bernie with respect and fairness and they will do everything to ensure he doesn't get their nomination. I think Bernie needs to stick to his anti-establishment roots and run independently as a third party candidate.
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:21 PM
 
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Third party candidates NEVER win,they just suck off votes from the opponent most like themselves.If you can't win a party nomination you certainly aren't going to win a general election.
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:29 PM
 
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Question: In the scenario where DNC does not nominate Sanders, can he change to independent? (I know it's very unlikely he'll do that, but just asking, technically speaking, will there be time?)
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:35 PM
 
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Question: In the scenario where DNC does not nominate Sanders, can he change to independent? (I know it's very unlikely he'll do that, but just asking, technically speaking, will there be time?)
Many states have 'sore loser laws',if you run in a party primary you can't run independent in the general election.
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:59 PM
 
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Question: In the scenario where DNC does not nominate Sanders, can he change to independent? (I know it's very unlikely he'll do that, but just asking, technically speaking, will there be time?)
The DNC doesn't nominate candidates delegates do unless you are referring to the 712 "Super Delegates."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...elegates,_2016
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:02 PM
 
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Question: In the scenario where DNC does not nominate Sanders, can he change to independent?
He can change to anyone he wants but it is impossible to start a national campaign at the end of July and expect to appear on anyone's state ballot much less put together an effective national campaign by November.
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Question: In the scenario where DNC does not nominate Sanders, can he change to independent? (I know it's very unlikely he'll do that, but just asking, technically speaking, will there be time?)
Probably. Unlike the fascist GOP, the DNC did not require a pledge to the party not to run as an independent in order to be allowed into the debates and primaries. That pledge actually seems like something a Communist regime might require.
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:34 PM
 
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The DNC doesn't nominate candidates delegates do unless you are referring to the 712 "Super Delegates."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...elegates,_2016
Thanks for the link. So Bill Clinton is one of the superdelegates, not surprisingly.
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Old 02-10-2016, 10:34 PM
 
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So Bill Clinton is one of the superdelegates, not surprisingly.
As are all past and present Democratic Presidents and Vice-Presidents. Each of them gets exactly 1 vote, the same as the 4000 pledged delegates. As a Senator, Sanders would be a superdelegate too if he had been a Democrat for more than, say, 5 minutes. Instead he wants to have his cake and eat it too. His choice.

Just wait until you discover that the President is not elected by popular vote. Electors are chosen from loyal party leaders and there is no Constitutional requirement or federal law that requires them to vote for the candidate that won their state's vote. If you're looking for a hill to die on, that's a more important one, IMO.
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Old 02-10-2016, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Many states have 'sore loser laws',if you run in a party primary you can't run independent in the general election.
Don't stop a write-in surge.
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