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Old 02-11-2016, 09:38 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Iowa - population rank #30 ...3.1 million
New Hampshire - " #41 ... 1.3 million

Let me tell you about my home state: Pennsylvania - population rank #6 ... 12.8 million

One year ago a Democrat, Tom Wolf defeated the incumbent Republican Governor Corbett and moved into the governor's mansion in Harrisburg. In the same election 3 Republicans and 3 Democrats ran for 3 seats in the State Supreme Court; the Democrats won all 3 seats. Pennsylvania, once considered a "swing" state (Rick Santorum was from here - allegedly) shifted decidedly "blue."
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Old 02-11-2016, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Walterkitty, making things up again....


The 140k number you have for Iowa isn't the actual voters, it was the state level delegates equiv's multplied by 100. lets stop with this idiocy....
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Old 02-12-2016, 10:34 AM
 
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Walterkitty, making things up again....


The 140k number you have for Iowa isn't the actual voters, it was the state level delegates equiv's multplied by 100. lets stop with this idiocy....
I didn't make up those numbers. They came from the green page. But no matter.

The Iowa DNC chair, Luis Miranda has gone on record and stated that turnout for the Democrats was 171K. We don't actually know of course because he refuses to release the actual count.

So that changes it as follows. Still a substantial loss for the Democrats

Iowa Democrat Caucus
  • 2008 - 239,872
  • 2016 - 170,000
  • Loss = 69,872
GOP shatters its turnout record; Democrats lag behind - Washington Times


If this trend continues throughout the primaries, then the Democrats are facing substantial losses this November.
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I didn't make up those numbers. They came from the green page. But no matter.

The Iowa DNC chair, Luis Miranda has gone on record and stated that turnout for the Democrats was 171K. We don't actually know of course because he refuses to release the actual count.

So that changes it as follows. Still a substantial loss for the Democrats

Iowa Democrat Caucus
  • 2008 - 239,872
  • 2016 - 170,000
  • Loss = 69,872
GOP shatters its turnout record; Democrats lag behind - Washington Times


If this trend continues throughout the primaries, then the Democrats are facing substantial losses this November.
Green papers states that it was state level delegates equiv's x 100, so if you got it from there you decided not to actually read what it stated....
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:20 PM
 
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Green papers states that it was state level delegates equiv's x 100, so if you got it from there you decided not to actually read what it stated....
I corrected my mistake. Thanks for pointing it out.

It didn't change the point. Democrats are losing massive numbers of voters. This doesn't bode will for them at all.
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:21 PM
 
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It is not looking so good without a nakedly brazen campaign of pro-black racism to motivate and turn out the Democrat party electorate with.
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I corrected my mistake. Thanks for pointing it out.

It didn't change the point. Democrats are losing massive numbers of voters. This doesn't bode will for them at all.
These numbers are still higher than they have typically been. 2008 completely shattered all sorts of records. The turnout isn't at 2008 levels, but still higher than normal. For example in 2004 the totals in Iowa were around 125,000, this year wasn't at the 2008 record, but still higher than 2004 and others in the past.
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Old 02-12-2016, 01:12 PM
 
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These numbers are still higher than they have typically been. 2008 completely shattered all sorts of records. The turnout isn't at 2008 levels, but still higher than normal. For example in 2004 the totals in Iowa were around 125,000, this year wasn't at the 2008 record, but still higher than 2004 and others in the past.
2004 wasn't an open election so comparisons between the two parties would not be applicable.
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Old 02-12-2016, 01:17 PM
 
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Democrats are losing 100s of 1000s of voters in last 8 years.

Results of the Iowa Caucus & New Hampshire Primary indicated the Democrats are lost significant number of voters between 2008 & 2016. This even though there were record turnouts and highly contested races. Furthermore more Republicans participated than Democrats in 2016. I don't think this has happened in NH in an open election year in a long time.

Iowa Democrat Caucus
  • 2008 - 239,872
  • 2016 - 140,548
  • Loss = 99,324
New Hampshire Democrat Primary
  • 2008 - 287,557
  • 2016 - 250,983
  • Loss = 36,574
On the other hand, these missing voters seem to have re-registered as Republicans


Iowa Republican Caucus
  • 2008 - 119,200
  • 2016 - 186,874
  • Gain = 67,674
New Hampshire Republican Primary
  • 2008 - 234,851
  • 2016 - 284,120
  • Gain = 49,269
So in just two small states, and one of them is decidedly a Blue state, the Democrats have lost 135,898 registered voters in just 8 years.

This is very bad news for where things are headed for the Democrats in the general election. Further proof that the Democrats have lost much of the middle class.
What is the source for these numbers?

Real Politics has different numbers, well, different for the Democrats.
Probing for Clues in the Iowa Caucus Numbers | RealClearPolitics
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Old 02-12-2016, 01:27 PM
 
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What is the source for these numbers?

Real Politics has different numbers, well, different for the Democrats.
Probing for Clues in the Iowa Caucus Numbers | RealClearPolitics
2016 were from statement made by Iowa DNC chair. See post 13, and this.

GOP turnout surged 50 percent, Democrats dropped nearly 30 percent in Iowa caucuses - Washington Times

2008 numbers were from here.

How Many People Participate in the Iowa Caucuses?
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